What to put inside sump? How to arrange filter media and equipment?

Discussion in 'Filters, Pumps, etc..' started by MarshallPlacid, Aug 24, 2011.

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  1. MarshallPlacid

    MarshallPlacid Plankton

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    Hello fellow hobbyists!

    I appreciate any input, advice, comments, critiques, etc. on this topic. I really need some help on this.

    What filter and equipment do I put inside my sump? And inside which chamber?

    My objective is to reduce nitrates. Every other measurement (ammonia, nitrite, phosphate, etc. is good). BUT, my nitrates are through the room at 80ppm. Yes, I know water change will help. However, what about my sump's arrangement and filter media and equipment used?

    here is a description of my sump and what filter media and equipment I currently have inside.

    Sump description:
    5 chamber sump. Each chamber is about 18'' x 8''.

    Two drainage pipes from overflow and both drain about the same amount of water each.

    One pipe drains to the 1st chamber on the far left. The second pipe drains to the 5th chamber on the far right.

    Return pump returns water in the 3rd chamber (the middle chamber).

    Reef tank:
    8 weeks old (very new tank)
    187 gallons with one overflow that has 2 pipes for drainage.
    4 x 150W lights + 4 x 65W T5s + Moonlight LEDs + 3 x Koralia 1400 GPH powerheads
    1 1/2 inch to 2 inch deep sandbed.
    Only 70 lbs of live rock ( I don't want to add anymore. I prefer more room for corals and fish to swim)
    About 10 fishes, with a combined length of 24 inches.
    10 corals (mostly softies and 3 hard corals)
    1 sea anemone bubble tip
    2 cleaner shrimps, some snails, crabs, one slug

    Sump Equipment:
    Pump: Eheim 1260 (measured at about 500GPH returning to my tank)
    Equipment: 2 Tunze 9006 classic skimmers
    UV Sterlizer Coralife Turbo twist 18x (with a small pump)
    Nextreef SMR1 reactor with vertex bio pellets (with a small pump)

    Sump Filter media:
    4L of Seachem matrix (I don't have mesh bags for them. I just threw them into the sump chambers without mesh bags. The matrix simply sinks to near the bottom of the sump chambers where there are filter wool above filter grids). I just put in the matrix about 2 weeks ago. Maybe, the nitrifying bacteria isn't cultured enough yet.
    8 bags of Seachem purigen - I heard this type of media does not remove nitrate. It removes organics and other things that create nitrate.
    2 large slabs Filter wool that fits the 1st chamber and 5th chamber perfectly
    2 nylon filter socks
    6 bags of Bio-Chem Zorb
    2 bags of activated carbon (4'' x 6'')
    750ml I think... of vertex bio pellets in the nextreef reactor

    What filter and equipment do I put inside my sump aside from what I already have? And inside which chamber? So, how do I arrange all these filter media and equipment so I achieve the best possible water returning to my tank?

    Do I wait a little longer for bacteria to get cultured in the seachem matrix? Or, get more seachem matrix? Or get chaeto? Or, create a refugium to grow chaeto?

    I thank you all for your time in responding. It is much appreciated!
     
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  3. Powerman

    Powerman Giant Squid

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    Good Lord... what else is there? You have thrown about everything know to man in there. You system is way too new and you have way too many things going on. You do not need all that chemical media in there. Your tank has barely cycled. Your nitrates will come down. Do some reading and save your self some money on all that stuff. All you need is a good skimmer, carbon... and with bio pellets you will not need anything else. you could put some macro algae in but there is no need. Why does your sump have 5 chambers?
     
  4. MarshallPlacid

    MarshallPlacid Plankton

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    Thanks for the reply.

    Yes, the tank came with the 5 chambers for the sump. The chambers aren't that big.

    So, do you think it just a matter of "new tank syndrome"? Is it because of the die-off from the live rock? Why would a new tank create such high nitrate? And, as the tank gets more established, why would nitrates gradually go down?

    Or, is it because there is not enough time for the bacteria (that converts nitrate to nitrogen) to culture/grow enough since it is a new tank?
     
  5. Powerman

    Powerman Giant Squid

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    Yes it is just new. Do some water changes, still plenty of things need establishing. Bio pellets I doubt are really up to speed.
     
  6. ReefBruh

    ReefBruh Giant Squid

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    Your pellets need a pump that is atleast 500 gph to run or its defeating the purpose. They need to have a good tumble.