Two new 100 G starfire glassand tank and one 80G tank incomming

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  1. Mudbeaver

    Mudbeaver Coral Banded Shrimp

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    It was a good morning light



    Their was good light today not too sunny so i made a photo shoot of the tanks, because sometimes too much glare and reflexion i get more window shot reflexion in the water than fish shots lol. So here we go


    From the top of the refugium i see my reef tank like this

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    From the roof i see my fuge like this


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    After dosing some iodine, iodides , iron and manganese , the fuge bounced back a bit

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    The clowns are in the NPS zone as you can see no growth of algae what so ever , perfect for the NPS's.

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    Almost got a clear shot boy are they hyper....

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    Being in the diatom stage the sponge who's normaly purple became totally brown, now she's clearing up and getting her color back to purple, mauve again.

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    The first tonga sculpture's going to get 3 new additions this week , to its branches with zoos on it.

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    This tonga sculpture is being overrun and cleaned up at the same time , The GSP are growing actually prety good.

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    The FTS you can see the 3 pieces i was talking about , very interesting shapes as well thats why i took them too

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    I don't know what these guys found but they've been in there for 2 weeks now cleaning.

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    One of the interesting piece, its actually a tonga branch with growth on it.

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    An earlier piece i put there, i'm not good with epoxy.

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    The new star of the tank

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    What she see's , with her mouth i suppose lol

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    That cucumber is too close to the letuce lol.

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    The fuge was in good light too

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    I love a green canopee

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    Find the seahorse

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    Cleaned up my wires a bit

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    everything looks stupendous mud! I think my favorite is the fuge with the seahorses, so much color with your macro!
     
  4. Mudbeaver

    Mudbeaver Coral Banded Shrimp

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    Its actually one of the reason i like refugium in the first place , the Macro's and fishes swimming between them. Fresh water planted tank are my secon favorite and then the reef tanks lol. Why do i have a reef tank and not a planted fresh tank , go figure lol. Well actually , Having No 1 and No 3 favorite , not a bad thing all consider and easier to managed since its the same water.
     
  5. Mudbeaver

    Mudbeaver Coral Banded Shrimp

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    Nutrition facts and values for herbivores

    • A bit of comparisson on foods and what some are feeding tangs and the nuttritional values.

    • Spirulina dried
    • Nutritional value per 100*g (3.5*oz)
    • Energy
    • 1,213*kJ (290*kcal)
    • Carbohydrates
    • 23.9 g
    • -*Sugars
    • 3.1 g
    • -*Dietary fiber
    • 3.6 g
    • Fat
    • 7.72 g
    • -*saturated
    • 2.65 g
    • -*monounsaturated
    • 0.675 g
    • -*polyunsaturated
    • 2.08 g
    • Protein
    • 57.47 g
    • -*Tryptophan
    • 0.929 g
    • -*Threonine
    • 2.97 g
    • -*Isoleucine
    • 3.209 g
    • -*Leucine
    • 4.947 g
    • -*Lysine
    • 3.025 g
    • -*Methionine
    • 1.149 g
    • -*Cystine
    • 0.662 g
    • -*Phenylalanine
    • 2.777 g
    • -*Tyrosine
    • 2.584 g
    • -*Valine
    • 3.512 g
    • -*Arginine
    • 4.147 g
    • -*Histidine
    • 1.085 g
    • -*Alanine
    • 4.515 g
    • -*Aspartic acid
    • 5.793 g
    • -*Glutamic acid
    • 8.386 g
    • -*Glycine
    • 3.099 g
    • -*Proline
    • 2.382 g
    • -*Serine
    • 2.998 g
    • Water
    • 4.68 g
    • Vitamin A*equiv.
    • 29 μg (4%)
    • -*beta-carotene
    • 342 μg (3%)
    • -*lutein*and*zeaxanthin
    • 0 μg
    • Thiamine (vit. B1)
    • 2.38 mg (207%)
    • Riboflavin (vit. B2)
    • 3.67 mg (306%)
    • Niacin (vit. B3)
    • 12.82 mg (85%)
    • Pantothenic acid*(B5)
    • 3.48 mg (70%)
    • Vitamin B6
    • 0.364 mg (28%)
    • Folate*(vit. B9)
    • 94 μg (24%)
    • Vitamin B12
    • 0 μg (0%)
    • Choline
    • 66 mg (13%)
    • Vitamin C
    • 10.1 mg (12%)
    • Vitamin D
    • 0 IU (0%)
    • Vitamin E
    • 5 mg (33%)
    • Vitamin K
    • 25.5 μg (24%)
    • Calcium
    • 120 mg (12%)
    • Iron
    • 28.5 mg (219%)
    • Magnesium
    • 195 mg (55%)
    • Manganese
    • 1.9 mg (90%)
    • Phosphorus
    • 118 mg (17%)
    • Potassium
    • 1363 mg (29%)
    • Sodium
    • 1048 mg (70%)
    • Zinc
    • 2 mg (21%)
    • Link to USDA Database entry
    • Percentages are roughly approximated
    • using*US recommendations*for adults.
    • Source:*USDA Nutrient Database


    • Romaine lettuce
    • Nutritional value per 100*g (3.5*oz)
    • Energy
    • 72*kJ (17*kcal)
    • Carbohydrates
    • 3.3 g
    • -*Dietary fibre
    • 2.1 g
    • Fat
    • 0.3 g
    • Protein
    • 1.2 g
    • Water
    • 95 g
    • Vitamin A*equiv.
    • 290 μg (36%)
    • Folate*(vit. B9)
    • 136 μg (34%)
    • Vitamin C
    • 24 mg (29%)
    • Calcium
    • 33 mg (3%)
    • Iron
    • 0.97 mg (7%)
    • Phosphorus
    • 30 mg (4%)
    • Potassium
    • 247 mg (5%)

    • Lettuce (butterhead) iceberg
    • Nutritional value per 100*g (3.5*oz)
    • Energy
    • 55*kJ (13*kcal)
    • Carbohydrates
    • 2.23 g
    • -*Sugars
    • 0.94
    • -*Dietary fibre
    • 1.1 g
    • Fat
    • 0.22 g
    • Protein
    • 1.35 g
    • Water
    • 95.63 g
    • Vitamin A*equiv.
    • 166 μg (21%)
    • -*beta-carotene
    • 1987 μg (18%)
    • -*lutein*and*zeaxanthin
    • 1223 μg
    • Thiamine (vit. B1)
    • 0.057 mg (5%)
    • Riboflavin (vit. B2)
    • 0.062 mg (5%)
    • Pantothenic acid*(B5)
    • 0.15 mg (3%)
    • Vitamin B6
    • 0.082 mg (6%)
    • Folate*(vit. B9)
    • 73 μg (18%)
    • Vitamin C
    • 3.7 mg (4%)
    • Vitamin E
    • 0.18 mg (1%)
    • Vitamin K
    • 102.3 μg (97%)
    • Calcium
    • 35 mg (4%)
    • Iron
    • 1.24 mg (10%)
    • Magnesium
    • 13 mg (4%)
    • Manganese
    • 0.179 mg (9%)
    • Phosphorus
    • 33 mg (5%)
    • Potassium
    • 238 mg (5%)
    • Sodium
    • 5 mg (0%)
    • Zinc
    • 0.2 mg (2%)
    • Link to USDA Database entry
    • Percentages are roughly approximated
    • using*US recommendations*for adults.
    • Source:*USDA Nutrient Database



    • Spinach, raw
    • Nutritional value per 100*g (3.5*oz)
    • Energy
    • 97*kJ (23*kcal)
    • Carbohydrates
    • 3.6 g
    • -*Sugars
    • 0.4 g
    • -*Dietary fiber
    • 2.2 g
    • Fat
    • 0.4 g
    • Protein
    • 2.9 g
    • Water
    • 91.4 g
    • Vitamin A*equiv.
    • 469 μg (59%)
    • Vitamin A
    • 9377 IU
    • -*beta-carotene
    • 5626 μg (52%)
    • -*lutein*and*zeaxanthin
    • 12198 μg
    • Thiamine (vit. B1)
    • 0.078 mg (7%)
    • Riboflavin (vit. B2)
    • 0.189 mg (16%)
    • Niacin (vit. B3)
    • 0.724 mg (5%)
    • Vitamin B6
    • 0.195 mg (15%)
    • Folate*(vit. B9)
    • 194 μg (49%)
    • Vitamin C
    • 28 mg (34%)
    • Vitamin E
    • 2 mg (13%)
    • Vitamin K
    • 483 μg (460%)
    • Calcium
    • 99 mg (10%)
    • Iron
    • 2.71 mg (21%)
    • Magnesium
    • 79 mg (22%)
    • Manganese
    • 0.897 mg (43%)
    • Phosphorus
    • 49 mg (7%)
    • Potassium
    • 558 mg (12%)
    • Sodium
    • 79 mg (5%)
    • Zinc
    • 0.53 mg (6%)
    • Link to USDA Database entry
    • Percentages are roughly approximated
    • using*US recommendations*for adults.
    • Source:*USDA Nutrient Database




    • Seaweed, laver, raw Nori
    • Nutritional value per 100*g (3.5*oz)
    • Energy
    • 35*kcal (150*kJ)
    • Carbohydrates
    • 5.11 g
    • -*Dietary fiber
    • 0.3 g
    • Fat
    • 0.28 g
    • Protein
    • 5.81 g
    • Water
    • 85.03 g
    • Vitamin A*equiv.
    • 260 μg (33%)
    • Thiamine (vit. B1)
    • 0.098 mg (9%)
    • Riboflavin (vit. B2)
    • 0.446 mg (37%)
    • Niacin (vit. B3)
    • 1.470 mg (10%)
    • Folate*(vit. B9)
    • 146 μg (37%)
    • Vitamin B12
    • 0.000 μg (0%)
    • Vitamin C
    • 39.0 mg (47%)
    • Vitamin D
    • 0 μg (0%)
    • Vitamin E
    • 1.00 mg (7%)
    • Vitamin K
    • 4.0 μg (4%)
    • Calcium
    • 70 mg (7%)
    • Iron
    • 1.80 mg (14%)
    • Magnesium
    • 2 mg (1%)
    • Phosphorus
    • 58 mg (8%)
    • Potassium
    • 356 mg (8%)
    • Sodium
    • 48 mg (3%)
    • Zinc
    • 1.05 mg (11%)
    • Percentages are roughly approximated
    • using*US recommendations*for adults.
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  6. Mudbeaver

    Mudbeaver Coral Banded Shrimp

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    New participants and update



    Yes i have a few new participants one that i forgot to take a picture of before he got eaten, one that i forgot to take a picture before i lost him and one that i took a picture after he eat one of them.


    Here's the mug shot of the killer. A Dwarf Fuzzy Lionfish in my Angler pen. The Angler pen is called the Angler pen because it was suppose to have an Angler in it but , the bugger is late to show up at the LFS or i should say the right one, a yellow colored one like this

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    So this is what in the pen right now the Dwarf Fuzzy Lion fish.

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    This is after he ate a moly i had just acclimated and put in. Thinking id have time to put my rosie in and he'd go for the rosie first and then go for the moly second when ever he's be hungry, in a week or so......Thats not what happened. He came out of nowhere , because i didn't know where he was, and within 10 second it was over. Didn't have time to shoot him with the camera, i didn't see him swallow the moly it was too fast.

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    You can see the tail of the moly comming out of his mouth here

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    This fish is a stalker just like the Angler so they'll have fun in the bush, the difference is that this one swims when he sees his prey. In nature he reaches, 7" but in tanks 4" is usually the max i'm told. I fed him a live one to make him comfy for the first time because freshwater fish in the long run will harm him, the lungs and liver in particular. So next meal will be raw chop up shrimps and with tongues he'll accept pellets i'm told they're quite easy to train.

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    My concerne this time was the size of the prey, they choke sometimes on them and die. This morning he was perched again. he loves tha backwall, nooks and crannys.

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    I think my urchin is developping a twisted sense of humour, just like mine....or he wants to show off since its the Olympics....Took my Halimeda right off the bottom roots and all....


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    An new elegance in my main tank

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    Remember my purple vase sponge, she was all brown during my diatom algae bloom

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    She cleared up

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    So his most of the tank . Thanks to my Urchins and 4 and only 4 trochus snails. Why only 4, did i say 4, because 10 of those had totally eaten my macro's $ 197 worth of algaes and then died after. So 4 i wont say it enough , don't buy to many or they'll starve to dead after their work is done. I have a 150 Gallons with a 6 foot long backwall with nooks and crannys and some rocks on the sand and they cleaned it out in a week only 4 of them , so don't waste your money with dozens of them; thats all i'm saying lol. So in the nex few pictures you'll see the before and after. 4.......



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    This use to be all brown ; i have a sailfin blenny, can't get him still enough for a shot, but he's working great on the wall too. Some of my stock list change according to the tank's need. With that much rockwall a herbivore was innevitable. I still will have a goby, and the missing picture is of the pistol shrimp , i can't locate her. Small and blind. I found my emerald crab behind my big sculpture eating and happy so he's alright.

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    I change my sock now only every week, for the nitrates to go up a bit for the macroalgaes, the GFO has been shut down, i still have it in reserve just in case i have a surge. My sump is pretty clean i've only had to vacuumed once in 6 weeks.

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    I've dosed these two which you absolutly need if you are to have a refugium full of macro of diffrerent species beside cheatos.

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    This one, iodine, iodide is crucial for red algaes in particular dragon's breath . That algae actually disolves in less tha 24h before your eyes if you don't have that in your water. I'm not kidding, it becomes like saranwrap celophane and translucant and disapears in front of you. It the only algae i lost, i saved the others but just in time.

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    I skim kina wet, i rather add clean supplements that let too many junk into the system.

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    I'll be dosing soon with a dosing kit , but its back order. High levels of Calcium, Magnesium and Alk helps the development of Macroalgaes a lot, and suppress the micro algaes , thats a very good thing to remember , ired that in my research, so until i get my dosing set up i'll be dosing this supplement.

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  7. oldfishkeeper

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    your elegance is gorgeous! I hope it lasts for you long-term.
     
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    Mudbeaver Coral Banded Shrimp

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    Yes i know... the odds are not in my favor, i bough food for her.

    I've copied this for myself so i don't forget it and for those looking for an answer about feeding their Elegant, its from a Mod and tanks for posting it;

    "Yes, a regular prawn or shrimp from the grocery store. Here are EC's instructions for feeding the elegance. It's from the big Elegance coral thread.



    Elegance corals typically don't feed on tiny particles. Like the size of brine shrimp or smaller. They feed on more substantial meals. Like small fish or shrimp.

    When you try to feed a healthy elegance, you're going to get one of two responses. If the whole coral, or most of it, withdraws fairly quickly, you're not getting a feeding response. It's a defensive response. Even if food does stick to the tentacles in such a situation, it's likely to be released later when the coral opens back up. Many people see the coral grab food and close up, and think the coral is feeding, but it isn't.

    If there's to much contact, or an abrupt increase in water flow, especially with large amounts of particulate matter in it, the coral is likely to go into defensive mode and close up. You want to avoid this the best you can.

    When an elegance feeds, the only parts of the coral that move are the ones involved in the feeding. The rest of the coral remains open.

    Try this. Pick up about three table shrimp from your grocery store seafood department. If you buy to much, it will just get freezer burnt before you have a chance to use it. Peel the shrimp, and rinse them really really well. Cut off a piece about the size of a pencil eraser and very slowly, and gently, wiggle it in the tentacles of the coral. You're trying to mimic the movements of a small struggling fish without making it seem like the coral is under attack. This will bring more tentacles in to hold the food, and create a stronger feeding response. With a new coral, I always try to make feeding as easy as possible. If you look at the perimeter of the polyp, where the tentacles are, you'll notice that it's folded up. Kinda pleated. At the high points of these folds, the tentacles are closer to the mouths than they are where the polyp lays out flat. I always try to feed the coral right at these high points.

    You should see the coral begin to move the food closer to one of the mouths. Then the mouth will begin to swell, and move closer to the food, as the coral slowly places the food inside. If you do not see the food enter the mouth, you have to assume the coral has not fed.

    As the coral builds its strength and recovers from shipping stress, it will become much much easier to feed."
     
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  10. oldfishkeeper

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    thanks for sharing that information Mud! I kept an elegance years ago in my very first reef tank and it grew and lived a long time. I loved it and was disheartened to read that it's become a difficult coral to keep. I would love to try again and I think my parameters would lend itself to keeping one again just have been afraid to try.
     
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    • Botryocladia
    • Portieria
    • Gracilaria
    • Gracilaria parvispora Ogo
    • Eucheuma Spinosum
    • Halimedia
    • Shaving Brush
    • Caulerpa Palm Tree CAULERPA PASPALOIDES
    • Mermaid Fan (Udotea sp.) Saltwater Plant
    • Fern Codium Macro Algae (Codium tayloriiis)
    • Rigid Coralline Algae Cluster - Saltwater
    • Soft Coralline Algae Cluster - Saltwater
    • Tufted Joint Algae - Small - Saltwater Marco Algae (Cymopolia Barbata)
    • Tea Cup Macro Algae (ACETABULARIA SP.)
    • Eucheuma Spinosum
    • ROSE PETAL PINK DRAGON'S TONGUE..
    • RADIOXTIVE GREEN DEADMAN'S HAND...
    • Cheato
    • Caulerpa Prolifera
    • Ulva

      $307
      For those who'd like to know how much a macroalgae set up like this costs ( hardware not included lol).

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