Latest Shots of Acropora Killer - Help Me ID

Discussion in 'ID This!' started by justonwo, Oct 4, 2015.

to remove this notice and enjoy 3reef content with less ads. 3reef membership is free.

  1. justonwo

    justonwo Fire Shrimp

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2015
    Messages:
    314
    Location:
    Albany, CA
    To me, they look like the brown acoel flatworms to me. The giveaway is the forked tail.

    They look identical to the acoel listed on the Hitchhiker site. The good news is that it would seem Flatworm Exit is more likely to work on this variety.

    http://www.lionfishlair.com/hitchhiker.shtml
     
  2. Click Here!

  3. justonwo

    justonwo Fire Shrimp

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2015
    Messages:
    314
    Location:
    Albany, CA
    I am thinking they are not acropora eating flatworms, but rather brown acoel flatworms. Although they seem to have multiple by the hundreds overnight and are pretty much everywhere in the tank, I don't see any bite marks on any of the many acropora frags I have in the tank. I believe my lokani was probably damaged by their appetite for zooxanthellae or other activities. I will have Flatworm Exit to try tomorrow.
     
    evolved likes this.
  4. Vinnyboombatz

    Vinnyboombatz Giant Squid

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2010
    Messages:
    6,344
    Location:
    Dunnellon, Florida
    They don't eat zooxanthellae. They eat algae and detritus.The only thing they can do to corals is block light from reaching the coral.
     
  5. justonwo

    justonwo Fire Shrimp

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2015
    Messages:
    314
    Location:
    Albany, CA
    Well, I'm at a bit of a loss. I can't get a positive ID on these flatworms so I don't know how harmful they are but it seems like there's a pretty direct correlation between the time they showed up and the damage to my lokani. They are hanging out on other acros as well, but so far I don't see any ill effects. The damage to the lokani seems to be related to formation of an egg sack.

    I will be receiving Flatworm Exit in the mail today, and my sense is that I should use it while the population of flatworms is small. Although I've read horror stories about using this product, they seem to be related more to massive release of toxins from large populations. Frankly, I would rather lose fish than coral, if that ends up being a choice.
     
  6. justonwo

    justonwo Fire Shrimp

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2015
    Messages:
    314
    Location:
    Albany, CA
    I guess the other option would be to get a blue velvet nudibranch, but I don't know anything about the care of those creatures and I understand they will starve once the flatworms are gone.
     
  7. civiccars2003

    civiccars2003 Great Blue Whale

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2010
    Messages:
    2,827
    Location:
    Akron Ohio
    Use flatworm exit. Have plenty of water mixed for mutiple small water changes while treating. Please dont get a nudibranch. Be patient and go slow.
     
    Vinnyboombatz likes this.
  8. Click Here!

  9. justonwo

    justonwo Fire Shrimp

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2015
    Messages:
    314
    Location:
    Albany, CA
    How do you know when it's time for the water change? Is it usually a matter of minutes or hours after treatment?
     
  10. civiccars2003

    civiccars2003 Great Blue Whale

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2010
    Messages:
    2,827
    Location:
    Akron Ohio
    Treat it and wait. If things start to look dismal, do a water change. There is no set routine.
     
    Vinnyboombatz likes this.
  11. justonwo

    justonwo Fire Shrimp

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2015
    Messages:
    314
    Location:
    Albany, CA
    Got it, thanks for the response. We shall see.
     
  12. Vinnyboombatz

    Vinnyboombatz Giant Squid

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2010
    Messages:
    6,344
    Location:
    Dunnellon, Florida
    When you start to see dead fws follow civics advise and run fresh carbon.