yep, oh well, guess thats why i always hated chemistry, not good at it! Talked to my brother in law(BTW wait till ya see what apple is coming out with, his plant just awarded the contract for the plastic for it, cool stuff!) anyways he came up with a plan, then i showed him a calcium reactor and it was a blend of the 2! More natural this way, but less effective! he's gonna look at it a little more, but doesn't see be able to get it cost efficient! Mikejrice, you were right!