ATO problem

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  1. Windy

    Windy Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    I think an ATO would work real well in a toilet, then we can get rid of all of those flapper valves. We could use it to fill to different levels for custom flushes.
     
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  3. Todd_Sails

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    I went thru 3 aqualifters- I was using them to keep negative pressure on the top loop of one of my old HOB overflows- as a sort of safety net to keep the siphon from stopping.
    At first they worked fine, but after a a while- no more negative pressure.
    Luckily- it didn't need it anyways, so I took it off and plugged it the line, and it never lost siphon.

    It was supposed to be pulling any air out of the top loop, and water too at a slow rate.
    Well- I eventually gave them away to a fellow reefer.

    I'm certainly no authority, nor have I kept any stats. I have read of many of them eventually failing or dropping way off- after a realtively short time. They do make a rebuild kit for the diaphragm that apparently many people use to rebuild one- fairly easy to do I'm told- not much $ either.

    What ever you decide- I wish you years of maintenace free use!

    PS- A well built, plastic float valve- placed above the waterline is essentially as bullet proof as it gets.
    I realize not everyone has the ability to use gravity as I do in relation to resevoirs, etc.
    I like the fact that my Ro/DI also keeps my resevoir where I want it 24/7- without having to refill anything-
    with no electric power, pumps, or sensors- Oh My!
     
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    Not my site just one I found with a few reviews.8- 1 star reviews actually but mostly positive.

    P.S. Float valves can and do fail all the time.Google it.I suggest keeping the reservoir small enough so that when a failure occurs you don't kill everything in your tank.Now that is what I call bulletproof.:)
     
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  5. Windy

    Windy Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    Everything fails eventually, but a simple low pressure float valve will cycle many more times without failure then two electrical switches and a sensor. By the way, I did a search for float valve failures and there was little data. One point is to buy a good quality valve, and change it every 5-6 years.
    So, most of the information you get from a forum like this is not accurate or useful.
     
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    Vinnyboombatz Giant Squid

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    Well this guy knows a little something about water systems.IME most of the float valve failures I have seen are when something like a snail or debris causes them to stick.Information gained from a forum is really no different then information gathered anywhere.Its as good as the person giving it.;)

    AZ -Having been in the water production and treatment industry for over 38 years I have seen way too many floats fail. They are really no differenty than a toilet float, evaporative cooler float or pool self levelling float and they fail all the time.
     
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    Oh Brother

    If the valve mechanism is out of the water line, and it is a very bouyant, rather large float,
    It's next to impossible for a critter, or debris to affect the valves I'm using, and the way I'm using them.
    Yes ANYTHING can fail. I'll stay with my system, and hope others find a system that doesn't 'stick' somehow, lower the SG, and/or flood the area of the tank.

    It's all good, dozens of ways to skin a cat
     
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    Sorry if my facts irritate you Todd.lol I am not arguing with you.I said if I were to ever use an ATO your type system is what I would choose. I was merely pointing out that there is still a weak link in the float valve you are relying upon. I have found a system that is more reliable. My float valve NEVER sticks, I have never flooded my house,or lowered my salinity.☺

    Windy I am sorry if you don't feel like the information on this site is accurate or useful; I disagree.
     
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  10. Windy

    Windy Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    Well I am having trouble with my wheelchair, and I post that I need help fixing it. You answer, just walk!
     
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    What's wrong with your wheelchair? Maybe I can help? I like helping.Its very rewarding.☺
     
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    Vinny Said-' My float valve NEVER sticks, I have never flooded my house,or lowered my salinity.☺'

    Mine hasn't either- and NO salinity drops, and no flooded tanks!

    It's all good vinny, I'm glad I've built a simple/inexspensive/powerless ATO that works so well for me.
    YOu mileage may vary- Don't try this at home!
     
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