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  1. hoppnjoe

    hoppnjoe Astrea Snail

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    I'm ready to start buying itema for my tank, What i need to know what is the best sand for the tank, and what to use in my 40 gal sump. and do you have any other suggestions that i can use for the setup.! more question, i made a full top of tank cover, should i leave the opening cover off the tank for better air flow. thanks everyone for your help
     
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  3. saints fan 420

    saints fan 420 Expensive Colorful Sticks

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    I just setup a 150. It's cycling now. I have a 50 gallon sump. For skimmer I have a precision marine rl400. Mag 18 return pump. Dual overflows. I used 1" flex braided tubing for the return and I used 1 1/4" for the drain. I have a closed top canopy with 2 250w lumatex ballasts with lumatex reflectors and 20k radiums. My tank has stayed right around 80 with the lights on and my AC in my house at 75. I am found to add a couple black vents in the canopy with a fan and I'll have a small clip on fan running over the sump. That should lower my temp a couple degrees
     
  4. khowst

    khowst Bangghai Cardinal

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    your sand choices vary depending on what you plan to stock as far as grain size. crushed coral (cc) is general discouraged, stick with basic argonite sand. When it comes rock time remember the general rule of thumb is at least 1 to 1 1/2 lbs of rock per tank gallon. protein skimmers its also general recommend of course ot get one equal to the gallons of the tank but bigger is always better.

    equipment wise spend the money and get a refractometer its more accurate and a very worthy investment. for test kits, skip the strips dont even look at them or waste your money. API is kind of the hobby minimum standard but salifert are generally more recommended.

    what is your general goal for the tank? fowlr, reef, mixed? that will drive your lighting choices.
     
  5. MarineHobbyist

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    You should keep a fan for exhaust in your canopy to help your system keep its temp low.

    Same goes for your sump. I suggest you keep an exhaust in your stand.

    If you want to keep SPS corals, I suggest you keep your substrate big so that it won't move around the tank so much when you get the powerful wavemakers that your sps needs.
     
  6. hoppnjoe

    hoppnjoe Astrea Snail

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    i want to make a reef tank,i want live corals with just a couple of fish. i have 2 fans built into the canopy, they are heat controlled, the warmer it gets under the canopy the faster the fans run. they are 4 inch fans. The lighting is a new 72 inch t5 with 2 mt built in with a row of blue led lights for moon light that comes on after main lights are turned off.

    What size is the sand that i need? the sites that i have looked at mentioned sand in mm, but what size do i need? i dont want it blowing all over the tank
     
  7. 2in10

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    I would say from my experience stay away from sugar sand in the DT. Sugar is great for a DSB in your refugium or sump if the flow isn't too high. Get something that averages 1 to 2 mm I would say.
     
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  9. hoppnjoe

    hoppnjoe Astrea Snail

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    can you check out this site for sand and let me kmow whats best for DT and what best for sump thanks






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  10. bvb-etf-luva

    bvb-etf-luva Banned

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    sand is probably the easiest thing thats reef involved, it just depends on what you plan to keep, an sps reef has lots of flow so either no sand or large grained to crushed coral. if you will have burrowing fish get some iner sand. but just for an average tank medium grained sand will work good. and the sump doesnt really matter but i would suggest very fine sand so its sort of mudd ish and has lots of surgace area
     
  11. khowst

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    Much like drugs, just say NO to crushed coral.

    It's far from the best choice because of nitrates & chemical absorbsion. Add to that depending on your livestock choices it can irritate or scratch animals especially bottom dwelling fish causing infection issues.
     
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    this is entirely opinion, i myself and mostly agaionst crushed coral for a reef tank but it is easily cleaned and in a high flow tank wont cloud the water such as sand