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Old 10-26-2009, 08:52 PM
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Alright guys, I;m trying to help one of my friends out that I work with that is now as well informed on some of the saltwater tank topics as the rest of us are. So, the problem he is having right now is with hair algae like crazy. I'll post a picture but it is in clumps and I'm pretty sure it is hair algae. I tried to explain to him that he needs to not overfeed, change the water some, i just recently helped him order a good CUC from reefcleaners.org(excellent order by the way John!) but now he thinks that some sort of fish is the answer to the problem at the moment. I told him to try some boiling hot water and spray it on the hair algae in different cycles to kill it in the mean time & I also explained that a Phos-ban reactor is the best way to go to provide results over a long time span but he does not have the funds for that at the moment and does not think he is ready for the setup of a phos-ban reactor yet so he was looking for advice on a type of fish to get that would eat hair algae? I was thinking maybe a brown scopa tang? Are there any other tangs or surgeonfish that may work or maybe a algae eating blenny? The algae is so thick in the picture though that I'm not sure any fish will approach it. But I thought I would humor him as I promised to do some research & come back with some answers for him, so what do you guys think?
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Old 10-26-2009, 09:37 PM   #2
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:11 PM   #4
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I just went through all of this and finally am HA free. I personally believe that you must do all of the rigjht things...IE GFO, dont overfeed, water changes etc. I did use Algaefix Marine for about 7 doses. But all in all. There is no fast fix. Once you make sure all of the above is correct. You just have to wait for the algae to exhaust what is in the rocks that it is feeding on. Mine took 3 months to clear. Be Patient. Also if your friend cannot afford a Phosban reactor but he can afford a new fish. His priorities are backwards. Marine Depot has them on sale for about 33.00. Less than most fish cost.
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:36 PM   #5
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Just keep doing what you are doing, you are on the right track, try to cut the lighting back a lil bit, cut back the feeding just a lil bit. The big turbo snails really helped kick the GHA out, i got a few 2 in large ones, they wouldnt stop eating it. I then scrubed the rocks down, while in the tank, i did a system for this as well. When i scrubbed down the rocks the GHA would float in the water, I would then set up a tube with a fine mess net net at the end to catch all of the gha, i then had a pump in the bucket to pump the water back into the display, this way i could save the water. I also have a uv steralizer set up in my sump as well. I feel as though this has helped kill the spores. My GHA lasted for about 3 months, and got really bad. After I did this it hasn't come back. It is key to break up the big patches of GHA, or they are just phosphate sponges sucking it up so it will not even show in the tests. Not to mention that your snails wont even touch it unless it is thinned out. DO NOT GIVE UP...you will get this taken care of given time and the right care. Good luck
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Old 10-27-2009, 07:23 PM   #6
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yea i'll tryo to keep explaining this to my friend but he isnt the most knowledgeable person in the world or mechcanically inclined and doesnt want to deal w/ buying the pump and all the tubing/hoses/media to get the phosban started but I would be willing to helpo so maybe i can get him to cut back on that stuff to deprive the hair algae and maybe get some turbos or a sea hare but I will try to talk him into a phosban reactor.
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I just went through all of this and finally am HA free. I personally believe that you must do all of the rigjht things...IE GFO, dont overfeed, water changes etc. I did use Algaefix Marine for about 7 doses. But all in all. There is no fast fix. Once you make sure all of the above is correct. You just have to wait for the algae to exhaust what is in the rocks that it is feeding on. Mine took 3 months to clear. Be Patient. Also if your friend cannot afford a Phosban reactor but he can afford a new fish. His priorities are backwards. Marine Depot has them on sale for about 33.00. Less than most fish cost.
Absolutely correct. Fix the root cause. Fish are fertilizer factories for algae. They may eat algae, but fertilizer comes out the other end. Your friend needs a way to remove more nutrients from his system, not recycle them.
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:39 PM   #9
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yea i'm trying to talk him into working on his system completely....i finally got to see the tank in person again since like 6 months previous and the tank has seriously gone downhill a ton! It's kinda depressing & i'm trying to help him out with all the advice i can & i'm almost gonna ask and see if he would like me to come over and do some maintenance on it. It is a complete mess! The koralia powerhead have a ton of hair algae off them the rocks need to be pulled out and have all the algae pulled off in my opinion...he needs to clean his skimmer and his canister filter. I'm also trying to convince him to do a serious water change as well as switch from crushed corals to some actual sand as well as convince him into a phosban reactor for the long haul
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Old 11-02-2009, 07:55 PM   #10
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It might be time to start talking him in to giving you his livestock and tearing down the tank.
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