Jebo 180 and Ozone

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  1. sanju1998

    sanju1998 Plankton

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    Hi Friends,

    I wanted some advice on how to connect an ozoniser to the Jebo 180 skimmer.
    I have an ozonizer that releases ozone for 10 minutes every hour. I have connected the ozonoizer to the airline that connects to the venturi and kept the skimmer water level to the neck of the skimmer.
    However, when the ozonizer kicks ON then the water level in the skimmer drops down and I find large bubbles in the display tank and the skimmer stops functioning (no bubbles). Probably due to more air pressure at the venturi.
    I then regulate the air valve to minimize the pressure of ozone that are released to the venturi. In this case, the amount of bubbles in the skimmer are drastically reduced and the skimmer does not skim.

    Could anyone help or recommend a solution here.

    Many Thanks,
    Sanju
     
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  3. lunatik_69

    lunatik_69 Giant Squid

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    Jebo and Odyssea are the same animal just different name. I doubt that those skimmers are ozone safe/ready. Most "Ozone safe" skimmers are in the $300 and up range. I hope that you have researched enough on Ozone, as it is very dangerous/fatal to be breathing it in. With time, Ozone will distroy that skimmer and the air hoses.


    Luna
     
  4. sanju1998

    sanju1998 Plankton

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    what are alternatives we have to use ozone for the tank?
     
  5. lunatik_69

    lunatik_69 Giant Squid

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    You can use Ozone, but you need to have a Ozone safe skimmer and hoses. Not every skimmer is Ozone ready. Once you get your skimmer and such ready, you also need to place carbon on top of the colloction cup of the skimmer to filter out the Ozone and relace the carbon every month or so. Ozone is very dangerous even fatal if the right steps are not taken. I also looked into Ozone once, but at that time, I didnt have a ozone safe skimmer and wasnt ready to place my family at risk. Also, Ozone filters the hell out of the water and some corals dont thrive under those conditions. Do yourself a huge favor and research Ozone before you get hurt.


    Luna
     
  6. Crimson Ghost

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    I use a Coralife Super Skimmer Needle Wheel with my Ozone -- It's been runnign for a couple of years without issue. My Ozone is set at my specified setting and turns on and off as required. The Air compressor remains on all the time to regulate the bubbles in the skimmer - if you let the air turn off with the ozone you will get the result you are seeing now.

    Also, I find it best to use carbon under the skimmer return since it's chocked full of ozone.
     
  7. Crimson Ghost

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    OK, that seemed a little harsh to me. Ozone is used in homes to purify and disinfect as an alternative to chemicals. The use is far more than will be put out by your ozinator. Ozone converts to oxygen within 1 to 2 hours after being released. The only way it would be a danger is if you were using an Ozone generator and filled a room quickly with high levels of Ozone.

    Do some research and draw your own conclusions.
     
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  9. lunatik_69

    lunatik_69 Giant Squid

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    I wasnt being nasty or anything, but the way that he was asking sounded like he just tried ozone without researching it. I was just looking out for a fellow reefer. Ozone is and can be dangerous if not used carefully. Sorry if I sounded rough, that wasnt my intentions. luna
     
  10. Crimson Ghost

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    No, you were spot on - safety first, and I agree that everyone should educate themselves.

    I just did a google, there are a lot of crap articles out there that pertain to in home air purifiers - you need to skip those as they are trying to sell you something.

    This reef keeping article is interesting:

    Ozone and the Reef Aquarium, Part 2: Equipment and Safety by Randy Holmes-Farley - Reefkeeping.com
     
  11. tigermike74

    tigermike74 Panda Puffer

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    I would recommend looking into ozone and figuring out if one needs it or not. It's really on an individual case thing, some people like it, some don't. The main thing is having your tank ORP/Redox at about 380-420mV. If it is lower, the ozone will raise that. It will sterilize the heck out of the water by oxidizing the bad stuff (and some good stuff) out of the water. It will increase the effeciency of your skimmer, well I take that back, it will increase the quality of your skimmate. If you do choose to use an ozonizer, MAKE SURE, I repeat, MAKE SURE you use an ORP controller with it. Do not just go blindly into it and just have a "well I'll let it spit out 15mg/hr and it will be fine" attitude, you will find that your tank has crashed. As stated in Red Sea's manual, generally you want to have 10mg/hr for ever 25g of tank volume.
    I personally have the Red Sea Deluxe, which incorporates a controller in the unit, so it's less to worry about. I would recommend that anyone using an ozonizer to keep a bag of carbon in the collection cup to absorb the airborne O3, and some carbon in the water outlet of the skimmer to absorb the O3 in the skimmed water.
    If used properly, your water will be CLEAN, your fish will look like they are floating in air.

    I also want to add, I wouldn't assume the Jebo to be ozone safe. Jebo isn't known to be the greatest of quality (sorry), so you will find it crazing and cracking, and completely deteriorating after use.
     
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  12. tigermike74

    tigermike74 Panda Puffer

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    Luna always has great advice and never comes across as mean, IMO. All of us here want to help each other out and really do try to look out for the best interest of fellow reef hobbyists and their pets. I think it's safe to say that we get frustrated when we see someone come on here and say they bought something and everything is going wrong because they didn't do adequate research on proper care. I'm not saying this was the case, nor do I mean to be putting words into Luna's mouth. But I do know that the best intentions were meant. :)
     
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