Important emerency about sharks need some responses asap

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  1. SnooknRedz

    SnooknRedz Vlamingii Tang

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    I know what your talking about ive caught 100's of bulls. Awesome fish they literally spawn in my back yard.

    But what i guess im confused about is. As an avid angler when i return home with my catch. (because manipulating the fish on board a vessel is illegal as HELL in florida ie. filleting it and processing it) that helps FWC (Florida fish and wildlife) see if the species was taken out of season, under\over slot size etc.

    Unless it was caught off land and gutted on the spot right then and there, i can see it. Im using my routine of launchin my boat and that whole routine, the time i get home with a catch its LONG dead. that right there makes me wonder how these pups woulda survived.

    But they did... unfortunately and that blows. now theyre gonna be in constant relocation due to growth rates and feeding habbits to be upheld. smh poor guys.
     
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  3. norg.

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  4. SnooknRedz

    SnooknRedz Vlamingii Tang

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    Ive caught a shark and it gave birth on the boat once. That was awesome. the stress of the catch musta made her pop.
     
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    Probably. Thats pretty crazy. A two for one deal. haha. Do you usually keep the sharks you catch?
     
  6. SnooknRedz

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    Nope, there are way better tasting fish in the sea round these parts ;) Mahi mahi, grouper ( spotted, nassau etc.) snapper (red, mangrove, etc.) Wahoo, snook, redfish (hence my name) lol sea trout, flounder. I can go on and on. Perks of living 5 minutes from the beach.

    To me catching a shark isnt sport. I mean it is but to me putting a cut up dead fish with chum bag isnt fishing thats as easy as it gets. I prefer to use artificial lures and make the fish come to me. Makes it 100 times more rewarding and worth the catch.

    I have family from out of town I take fishing and I set them up with live mullet or croakers, or dead squid or clams, and theyll catch fish all day long. Thats the go to method for me when i take out of town-ers and ppl who just wanna catch anything with gills. but ive grown past it and i look for a challenge, Unless I promised a fish for dinner when i go out i wont use live/dead bait. Its too easy. lol I will switch if the fish arent biting my arties( and that means i have thrown everything in my tacklebox at em and they refuse to eat.) then ill get a shrimp and itll be game on before that thing hits the bottom.
     
  7. brunoboarder244

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    ive been going to florida multiple times per year since i am very young and have hooked into shark everywhere from populated beaches to in open ocean and I always do catch and release when I hook into them but I wouldn't say its not a sport at all to catch shark, they are a hell of a fight especially on light tackle with maybe a heavy leader(the heaviest i use unless going deep sea fishing for big big game is 30lb test and usually more likely 10 or 15). Pulling in a 7 foot shark on 20 lb test and a long fight is just as rewarding as catching any other fish but thats an opinion and not everyone sees it that way.

    whats done was already done and now im trying to help this guy out....and by the way ive seen sharks show responses to movement for up to almost an hour after caught not saying they can fully survive that long but there whole body system doesnt fully shutdown right away, also i dont know if it was maybe kept in a livewell or a fish box full of water etc, also im pretty sure sand shark give birth to live pups so the mother could have been going into labor within the next few weeks and a c-section on a dead person doesnt mean the baby is dead....have you heard of mothers passing away during labor and having an emergency c-section to save the baby i cant say for sure but i think its a bit of a delayed response from the mother to the babies systems to respond to one another

    personally i would not euthanize these pups...if they are in a tank in an aquarium they are in the same size tank as other fish in the hobby proportional wise so if your belief is no sharks in a box it really should be no fish in a box either...not my opinion because fish can have long healthy happy lives in a tank and no one is the judge of that except them...if they werent healthy and happy they wouldnt survive and look vibrantly colored so puttin a shark in a 10,000+ gallon tank isnt necessarily torture they get fed daily no predators they never have to deal with natural disasters and swings in temperature etc so it could actually live a better life than in the wild in certain cases

    again not trying to attack anyone just putting in my input out here
     
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  9. The Sea Store

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    Hello. Well the first problem is this guy is already trying to sell them.

    The best thing he could do is contact US Fish & Wildlife service @ 800-344-Wild, and ask them for advice, local resources, and/or rescues that deal with these type of animals.

    Aside from that, these guys have little chance on survival.

    Unfortunately, in general, people are amazed at how beautiful and mysterious sharks are, and frequently set out to put these animals in an inadequate environment. The end result ~ a miserable or short existence in home aquaria.

    Good luck ~
     
  10. brunoboarder244

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    the guy just posted them up there, he isnt really looking to make money on them more so find them a home
     
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    Well that's a good thing :)
     
  12. brunoboarder244

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    alright so major update

    the sharks are not sand sharks but are in fact spiny dogfish, the guy was able to pull 6 from the mother that was being gutted and transported them home where he has placed them in a tank and 4 out of the 6 survived, i offered to take them as a temporary home to find a place for them to be relocated to because the guy knows nothing about saltwater tanks etc has no test kits nothing

    also he asked me what could possibly be wrong with the 2 that didnt make it and i asked him if he had some kind of test kit to test the water and he said he has nothing that he just put fresh water in and placed them in the tank, by freshwater i hope he means fresh sea water and not actual freshwater im not sure....i read up a bit and saw they can venture into brackish water so maybe thats why they were able to survive at all if it is actual freshwater

    so im hopefully going to take them off his hands and find them a real home before any chance of them surviving is squashed assuming the guy agrees with it....if they are in fact in actual freshwater how should i go about acclimating them to saltwater again?