Hydrogen fuel cell car! HAHA!

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  1. leighton1245

    leighton1245 Horrid Stonefish

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    That is crazy about the water I know that you can actually inject H20 it does reduce power and chamber temps but normally it has to be distilled water lol Not bad gas water freaking BP::). That must have been from the oil they saved out of the ocean.

    Most flex fuel vehicles of today come with the parameters in the ECU and also larger injectors already installed thus enabling them to use various types of fuel? I could be wrong but from the ones I have worked on and that has not been any domestics that's the way it was.
     
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  3. ghut300zx

    ghut300zx Skunk Shrimp

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    i dont know if you can inject a gas
    theres wet and dry systems ive never seen liquid hydrogen
    if its injected wouldnt it run all the time on hydrogen?
    the world switched to OBD II in 1996
     
  4. malac0da13

    malac0da13 Torch Coral

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    With the flex fuel vehicles as far as I know you can't just let the tank run almost empty on normal gas then fill it up with e85 cuz it will run like crap. You got to like slowly switch and the computer will slowly learn and compensate for it I believe.

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  5. leighton1245

    leighton1245 Horrid Stonefish

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    Right like fill the tank when its half full cause it takes almost 25 miles for a ECU to adjust and learn new fuel curves.
     
  6. Ryland

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    Done. That switch you see on the inside of the car switches the system on and off. I have tried running with and without the system. MPG with the system on wins hands down. I am not the only one in my area runnning one of these. A couple of good friends have them (Who originally helped with the design) and have the same results. I cannot go into control groups nor argue with highly skilled engineers building the future generation of cars as we speak and all this other scientific mumbo jumbo. I agree that skepticism is a good thing. As was I about this system until I saw it in action. Run out and try one for yourself then come back and post the results. I am not an engineer. I am not a scientist. I am a self taught garage junky who got an idea and built it. The results speak for themselves. And in the words of Forrest...."Thats all I got to say bout that."
     
  7. leighton1245

    leighton1245 Horrid Stonefish

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    Im asking how do you know its winning hands down if you cant identify what you are using to track MPG or know anything about the fuel curves?
     
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  9. Powerman

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    Actually no we won't. Hydrogen is a poor energy source. It's availability make it attractive. But there is no way to produce it and get more energy out of what you put into production. Right now all our Hydrogen for industrial use comes from natural gas.

    It is not energy dense and we can't store enough in a vehicle. Hydrogen itself is very hard to contain... simple enough but with costly piping systems compared to others. Then we have motor vehicle safety on the high way... then we have all the other problems with distribution and infrastructure all around a substance that is harder to contain and more reactive with oxygen... they said the same thing about gasoline and true enough we got over it.... but just because hydrogen is all around us... it does not make it the next big thing in energy. There are HUGE HUGE problems with it.
     
  10. Powerman

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    Then you simply do not understand what you are dealing with. Energy is neither created nor destroyed, only converted. Your energy balance does not add up. It's very simple, nothing is free. And it's cool you are playing.. fun stuff, very interesting... but it is all in the science. All those other folks poo pooing this have a back ground in it. There is no free lunch out there.
     
  11. blackraven1425

    blackraven1425 Giant Squid

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    Well, hydrogen is never intended to be an energy source. It's intended to be a storage mechanism. There's a huge difference between the two. Stored up fuel in the Earth's crust is a source of energy, but hydrogen is just a way we are considering storing energy derived from other sources in the future. If hydrogen were to be an energy source, you wouldn't be hearing about solar, nuclear, and wind power all the time. The reason those are such a big deal is that all produce electricity, which is one of the energy types that is easy to combine with water to make hydrogen.

    As it turns out, there will not, in even the extremely long-term, be an energy storage mechanism wherein we get out more energy out than we put into it. As far as we know, that's totally against the laws of physics. It didn't even happen with oil or natural gas; we just happened to get lucky that this process of starting with a ton of energy and slowly adding more started hundreds of thousands of years ago.
     
  12. Powerman

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    Hydrogen has chemical energy. Same as gasoline. same as coal. When it under goes chemical reaction, the process releases energy. Source, storage. Tomato... toemato