How to get clown to stop trying to host Goniopora?

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  1. Corailline

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    I actually have an interest in the original intent of this thread.

    My clown has taken a liking my Duncan and it's not looking good for the Duncan. I am going to try relocating the coral. If that does not work I am going to try to introduce another clown.

    I love my Duncan and I love my clown. :-(
     
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  3. lillys Grandad

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    send in the clowns.. sorry couldn't help it. :/
    ..so back to the thread...has anyone seen, in regards to, the "symbiotic relationship" (how'bout that Vinny?) of fish and anemone that caused the demise and or ill health to either? .. I'm serious here, no BS.
    ...real question.
     
  4. Corailline

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    Oh yes,

    A passionate larger clown can kill an anemone. A large elephant ear mushroom can kill a sleeping clown fish residing there.

    It's important to buy an appropriate sized anemone with relation to the size of the clown fish. Adult Maroons, and Tomato clowns need large anemones, regardless of type of anemone, be it carpet or BTA.
     
  5. lillys Grandad

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    But only in that respect...large versus small...small versus large?
    ...in other words...of comparative size..in the tank...should not be an issue of one hurting another..?
    generally.
     
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    ...and in regards to the post, let me differentiate between anemone and coral.. I am curious about both.
     
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    Other than being too rough no I can not think of another issue that would cause ill effect.

    Of interest to note and a little off the subject, when clown fish are removed from their anemones in the wild, the anemones often fall victim to those fish that eat anemones such as some Butterfly fish. The clown fish kept the anemones predators away, once the clown fish is gone the anemones fall prey to different fish and inverts.
     
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    ..I would have to believe that in some form the clown benefits? ..has to be something that creates the symbiotic affair...if it be coral or anemone ...or is there one or many (reasons/benefits)?
     
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    Sure,

    Fish not specialized to eat anemones will not chase a clown into an anemone. They both derive protection from predators, just different types, those evolved to eat fish and those evolved to eat anemones.

    This is an old link but has good info.
    Anemones and Clown Fish

    Domino fish (damsels) also take up residence in BTA's in the wild and in home aquariums.

    I once had a yellow tail damsel that hung round the base of my anemone away from the stinging tentacles but cuddled up to the column of the anemone.

    And way to hi-jack a thread Cheryl, sorry. :-(
     
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    Guilty as charged..Hi jack ! 8) at least we weren't completely off topic.. : /
     
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    Agree with everything Cheryl has said except the type of anemone you choose for your clown is important because of the differences in the potency of the nematocysts.Also there is a unique closeness between Clownfish and their host anemone. A common mistake made by aquarists is mismatching the Clownfish to its host anemone. Most Clownfish will not go into just any anemone. There is a certain preference for each species of Clownfish. Some will call home to more than one species of anemone, but do prefer certain species. This selectivity is not always as strong in captivity, but clownfish are still most attracted to their natural hosts. It is also important to note that clownfish are one of the few marine fishes that are captive bred in large numbers. Captive bred clowns will have "grown up" without ever seeing an anemone, so they may be less selective and may never "bond" to an anemone at all.
    In the over 20 years I had my Maroon it killed dozens of corals.
     
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