Gurgling noise in overflow box (the air intake hole of pipe # 2) -diagram included

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  1. MarshallPlacid

    MarshallPlacid Plankton

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    Hello fellow hobbyists.

    I need some help and I hope anybody here can help me.

    It is the very annoying LOUD gurgling noise problem with my overflow filtration system.

    Tank specs:
    187 gallons with one overflow into a sump with a 5 box type filter (a filter system with 5 separate compartments of water) with 2 drainage pipes
    Pump is 900 GPH Einheim (spelling) pumping back out from one hose/pipe system.

    FINDINGS: the gurgling noise is coming out of the air intake HOLE of pipe # 2 (see diagram below).

    I attached a picture of the current configuration and some solutions I already tried including:

    1- Attaching air intake hose (3 ft) into air intake hole for pipe # 2. Gurgling noise stops, but pipe 1 stops working, so the sump only has 1 pipe draining instead of 2 pipes (which is a requirement).
    2- Lowering the ball valve so that only a little water flows out from the sump back into the tank. Gurgling noise stops. Both pipes 1 and 2 works and drains water. BUT, the pump is overtaxed because backward pressue is being forced back into the pump because the ball valve is almost 90% closed to only allow a little water back into the tank. This broke my first pump after 2 or 3 days. So, adjusting the ball valve does not solve the problem. It will only break the pump after a few days. Also, the GPH flowrate will be so low as to make the fish tank become unhealthy. I need at least a 4 or 5 times turnover rate for the fish tank filtration system.

    What other solutions are there to this annoying problem?

    I have tried asking my local saltwater fish store for help and the fish tank seller for help. No one has been able to help me. The manager of the store is on holiday, so I have to wait 2 weeks. I want to solve this problem now, with the help of this forum and the participants.

    I sincerely appreciate any comments, help, or tips you can give me.

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  3. morninwood

    morninwood Bristle Worm

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    overflow silencer? welcome to 3reef
     
  4. MarshallPlacid

    MarshallPlacid Plankton

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    Thanks for the reply.

    But, what do you mean by an overflow silencer?
     
  5. morninwood

    morninwood Bristle Worm

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    is this an overflow built in the tank or a hob overflow box?

    i know people have made silencers for hob overflow boxes
     
  6. MarshallPlacid

    MarshallPlacid Plankton

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    It is an overflow box built into the tank.

    Thank you!
     
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    Nvizn Montipora Digitata

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  9. thepanfish

    thepanfish Flying Squid

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    A peice of 1/4" tubing shoved down the down tube, with a bit sticking out. Prevents a vortex and "gurgle" from forming. Or attach a protein skimmer air silencer to the air intake using 1/4" TUBING.
     
  10. ReefRookie801

    ReefRookie801 Plankton

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    Overflow probs

    As for the noise, try a ball valve on the drain pipe
     
  11. Todd_Sails

    Todd_Sails Giant Squid

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    Isn't a ball valve on an overflow return usually a recipe for.....,

    Disaster?

    Maybe it's just me, but a short video, or even a few pictures might help us help you some more
     
  12. 55gfowlr

    55gfowlr Zoanthid

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    How old is your system? It sounds relatively new......you may want to let some slime build up and see how everything flows from there.