Copper appetite loss?

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  1. Corailline

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    Today is a different story. He's hiding in the back now. I'm treating with copper for ich but I'm thinking I should remove it. He might have had enough of it. It's day 15 of copper at .5, so the ich might not be gone, but I don't want to lose this fish. Do you think I should remove the copper and see what happens?
     
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    I turned off the pumps and dropped some food in and he came out but didn't eat. He was a great eater before. I noticed he was breathing fast too. I think I pretty much have to remove the copper and hope for the best. It is in the main tank (I know, I know. but its a FOWLR) so I assume the copper will remain for a little while as it leaches out of the rocks, which will help the ich too. AGH Im torn.
     
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    Well I put carbon in the filter and I'm starting to remove all the copper. Fingers crossed. It's the only thing I could do to hopefully save the fish.
     
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    Little update. Sorry I'm posting so much. The lights went out and the fish swam around, so its getting better. The copper is slowly getting lower and I am praying the ich is gone. But I at least think the stressed fish is getting better!
     
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    I need some help. I started removing the meds, and now all my fish do not look normal, they're not acting normal. I don't know what to do, I saw one scratch so I guess the ich is back. I stopped removing the copper and I don't know what to do next. I don't have a qt tank big enough. Someone help!
     
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    If you do not see active white spots and only flashing it's too early to declare ich. Flashing happens for a lot of reasons.

    Angels sometimes do poorly with Copper treatment.

    Sounds like the fish are stressed and that you are noticing every nuisance to their behaviors so you're getting stressed, hard not to do I know. Worst thing you can do is too many interventions at once.

    Back off the Copper if the Angel is reacting badly. Post up some images tomorrow with an update.

    Basic water chemistry such as Ammonia and Nitrites should be tested as well as SG always at signs of stress though
     
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    The angel was never reacting bad until I began removing copper, her coloring was not good and she was not acting right. Ammonia I assume I got a false positive due to the cupramine, but nitrite is 0, I have to test sg. In a sec.

    Yes, it's even more stressful on me lol. When the fish are mad, I'm mad.
     
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    sg is 1.023. nitrates are 10-20. I guess the ammonia may not be a false positive, but ive heard with cupramine the tests arent accurate. Its just odd how they get worse when the copper is gone.

    I did turn on the light to watch them which is when i noticed the weird behavior, it could have been because they were sleeping but I highly doubt it because I gave them time to adjust to the lights.

    I just don't know. we'll see in the morning I guess
     
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    This morning I turned on the light to observe their behavior just as I did last night and everything looked pretty normal. I think the stressed fish that was hiding yesterday is still a bit stressed because there's still copper. But his breathing is a little better and he was swimming around. I didn't see anyone scratch at all or any ich spots. The only difference from last night to now, is that now, there is no chemi pure elite in the filter. Could the fish have a reaction to chemi pure elite? I'm gonna see if they eat today, and maybe I'll continue to remove the copper with the CHEMI PURE ELITE and see what happens. What do you think?

    Also, I really appreciate your help with this!

    I can take some pictures later today too
     
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