yet another cycling question..... sorry

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  1. Nostra

    Nostra Plankton

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    So... I finally think my tank has cycled. MAYBE.. ammonia went up then stay there for a bit then went away now I'm showing levels of around 20 for my nitrates. Does this mean my cycle is over? I never got a spike or even a reading for my nitrites. I did add more live rock in the middle of my ammonia spike so... yeah no idea. And if the cycle is over do I want everything to be at zero? So that calls for a slight water change right?
    Thanks for any help
     
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  3. PharmrJohn

    PharmrJohn The Dude

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    How long has the cycle been going? How big is the tank and how much LR/LS do you have in there?
     
  4. Nostra

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    knew you were going to ask that.... sorry. i have had the tank up and "running" for about 5 or 6 weeks? maybe? I have 40 lbs of live sand about 200$ of live rock (treated i think. they had it in tupperware boxes with running water in it. no idea how many lbs that is but its enough to fill the entire tank and stack it in a few spots) and I have 4 damsels in there too to "help" with the cycle petstore's idea.....
     
  5. Dr.Fragenstein

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    After the cycle is complete, you will see NO3 creeping up, or jumping up... Start doing somewhat large W/Cs then to remove as much organics and NO3 as possible..Don't want to start a new tank off dirty, do you?

    Are you going to keep the damsels once the cycle is complete?
     
  6. trelane

    trelane Peppermint Shrimp

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    Don't worry about the test strip. The initial cycle is over when you see diatoms. That doesn't mean you can just dump fish in. It'll take a year or so for your tank to become fully established. Add fish one at a time (over weeks).
     
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  7. PharmrJohn

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    I like this. Pretty much how I feel as well. So many phases the tank goes through. Mine went through the diatom phase before the tank was cycled, but alll tanks are different.
     
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  9. Nostra

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    I have a couple bully damsels I am going to get rid of. But the yellow tails seem pretty laid back. Or is this a bad idea?
     
  10. trelane

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    Wow, that's unique, I havn't seen a tank with both ammonia and diatoms in it before. Technically speaking the tank is still cycling, as we would define cycling as a series of steps and biological processes which a tank will go through to reach maturity. After diatoms there's usually a cyano/hair (or eek! both) outbreak. Then there's a beneficial coraline outbreak as the tank begins to stabilize.

    By the way I recently saw a 600 gallon tank set up the hard way (dump everything in and WC to keep ammonia below 1ppm). This was at a LFS where they could dedicate a lot of time and they wanted the display up RIGHT FREAKING NOW. The owner drove out every night around midnight as well to perform another 10% WC. This went on for a month and a half despite the use of existing live rock from a 280G tank.

    Even if you're good at this there's no real way to cheat the cycle, to make it faster.
     
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  11. Nostra

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    thanks for your help you guys explaining this stuff again.