wrasse ID

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  1. Dingo

    Dingo Giant Squid

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    I am sure evolved will come by with a 100% I'd soon haha
    I am not very good with flasher wrasses, they all look a bit too similar to me lol! Have you tried carpenters wrasse yet? I know those and mccoskers are common in the hobby.
     
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  2. 1.0reef

    1.0reef Giant Squid

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    I agree with Reefbruh and lynnmw1208.
     
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  3. tattooedsoul87

    tattooedsoul87 Coral Banded Shrimp

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    thanks alot everybody for the help. its pretty tricky trying to ID them sometimes.
    I think this one might be on the money. good call

    haha ya I wa thinking the same thing hes really good with wrasses for sure
     
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  4. fishdoctors96

    fishdoctors96 Astrea Snail

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    Red Carpenter Fairy Wrasse.
     
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  5. Doratus

    Doratus Teardrop Maxima Clam

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    Just to clarify, two different species cannot produce viable offspring. If they could, they would just be variations of the same species.
     
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  6. Dingo

    Dingo Giant Squid

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    They can and do. The offspring is usually phenotypically different and is just labed as species1 x species2 var.
     
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  7. Doratus

    Doratus Teardrop Maxima Clam

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    Your right. They could produce offspring but that offspring could not reproduce. Sorry about the confusion.
     
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  8. Dingo

    Dingo Giant Squid

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    Sanjay's Photon clowns (percula x onyx ocellaris) have produced fertile offspring... in fact, I have seen them produce very healthy and full batches.

    But i do see your point because some crosses like horse and donkey to make a mule will produce an infertile offspring... who is to say that would not happen in the wild.

    However, with flasher wrasses only differing on the species level and being extremely similar between the different species, I would think that a cross would still produce fertile offspring.
     
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  9. Doratus

    Doratus Teardrop Maxima Clam

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    One of the fundamental definitions of 'species' is reproductive isolation. If the offspring is fertile than biologists must go back and change the taxonomy. Granted, there are many species out there that are misidentified, which is what causes this idea. It's simply not possible for two separate species to produce fertile offspring because that goes against the very definition of what a species is.
     
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  10. evolved

    evolved Wrasse Freak

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    It's not a flasher... :)

    Somebody already nailed it: Cirrhilabrus rubriventralis
    The white belly and "dotted" line on the sides are dead give-aways.

    Either a female or sub-male, no way to be certain on that one.

    PS - I'm trying to make a conscious effort to make my way to AT on Sunday; I'll make sure to introduce myself.
     
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