Tang swimming sideways?

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  1. Stingray

    Stingray Blue Ringed Angel

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    Hi all,
    Noticed today and yesterday my yellow tang is starting to swim sideways every now and then, never done this before,
    any ideas?

    amonia-0
    nitrate-5
    nitrite-0
    ph-8-8.3
    calcium 390ppm
    mag1390ppm
    alk-5.4
    temp=80f
    phos-0.03
    salinity 1.026

    I know my alk is very low, could this cause it, i'm trying to raise it using baking soda, but i'm not haveing much luck, how much can i add at one time, because a teaspoon or 2 a day just is not doing little if anything, apart from lowering my calcium?

    Thanks in advance....
     
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  3. bioreefdude

    bioreefdude Fu Manchu Lion Fish

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    any lines though its body what do u feed and how often ?and baking soda is good if u have experience doing that but water changes and/or if u choose two part buffers or superbuffer, but i prefer wc might be a vitamin c deficiency but also it could just be one of those silly swim patterns
     
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  4. Stingray

    Stingray Blue Ringed Angel

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    no lines, nothing on body at all, i feed my fish once a day i block of frozen mysis or krill, every now and then a block of brineshrimp+garlic or + spirinula, i will add some nori seaweed maybe once a week?
     
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    bioreefdude Fu Manchu Lion Fish

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    oh i've heard that tangs eat all day little bits but all day and u should keep nori on a seaweed clip for it to nibble if algae is not all over the tank and u might want to read up on giving them vitamin c
     
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    bioreefdude Fu Manchu Lion Fish

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    also how big is the tank they need a lot of swim space ,longer tanks (48")
     
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    Stingray Blue Ringed Angel

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    Its a 55 gallon, he's only about 3" at the moment so his fine in there, plan on upgradeing when the time comes, all other fish in my sig are fine, so i'm thinking its the lack of seaweed, as my tank is algaeless, could it be anything else?
     
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    bioreefdude Fu Manchu Lion Fish

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    definitely lack of seaweed it should have food always available get one of those clip things and keep a piece in there for it to nibble also as i said , u might wanna try looking up the vitamin c thing i hear your suppose to dose them vitamin c
     
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    bioreefdude Fu Manchu Lion Fish

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    The benefits of vitamin-C to aquatic organisms are largely related to improved tissue growth, particularly after recently-sustained injury or illness. Corals and their allies, in particular, have been observed to benefit tremendously from regular controlled dosage of vitamin-C by increasing their rate of soft tissue growth; this aspect is of particular interest to hobbyists and researchers involved with coral propagation, in which coral tissue is damaged during the process of splitting colonies and/or individual polyps. Grow-out systems regularly dosed with vitamin-C also tend to have improved growth rates when compared to control systems with identical environmental conditions. These benefits are believed to be a result of the positive impact that vitamin-C has on the immune system; this benefit translates to fishes as well as to the remainder of invertebrates maintained in marine aquaria. Vitamins are compounds required in minute concentrations for vital metabolic reactions; the amounts of vitamins required for a given species varies. Short-term vitamin deficiencies can typically be tolerated by most organisms, however long-term deficiencies tend to result in abnormalities, poor health, and eventually even death of the specimen. Conversely, if severely overdosed, ingested vitamins can have a negative impact on a specimen by way of toxicity, though the impact is unlikely to be permanent. Decreasing the vitamin dosage typically results in full recovery of the affected specimen. For these reasons, it is recommended that Vtamarin-C be utilized either as a means of delivering vitamins to aquarium inhabitants through food or by direct addition to the water, but not both except as noted on opposite panel when using with organisms that have sustained tissue damage. Vtamarin-C does not require refrigeration, however storage in a cool, shaded area will prolong the activity of the vitamins. Refrigeration will maximize the shelf-life of the product.

    Instructions and Guidelines

    If using to fortify food (recommended): Place food in a clean container such as a small bowl or cup and add only enough Vtamarin-C to saturate. Allow at least 5 minutes to elapse before feeding, enabling adequate time for the vitamins to become thoroughly absorbed by the food. Liquid food suspensions may be fortified by adding 1 ml (approximately 8 drops) Vtamarin-C per 10 ml of food suspension; stir to mix and allow 5 minutes to elapse before feeding. Maximum benefit of any liquid food suspension is achieved when the food is target-fed to the intended organisms rather than poured into a stream of water and allowed to disperse randomly throughout the aquarium. If adding directly to aquarium water: Begin by adding 2 ml (approximately 16 drops) of Vtamarin-C per 20 US-gallons of water weekly for the first four weeks of use; this corresponds to adding approximately 2 drops per 20 US-gallons each day. Then, gradually increase the weekly dosage to 4 ml per 20 US-gallons over the following four weeks and maintain this dosage. [Note: if using Vtamarin-C in conjunction with Brightwell Aquatics Vtamarin-M, decrease dosages by 50%.] Starting at a low dosage will not cause any harm to the livestock, and will enable you to notice subtle changes in the appearance of the system that indicate the effectiveness and need for the product. Note that doubling the dosage of Vtamarin-C is acceptable when fortifying food meant for organisms appearing to be in poor health, including fishes and invertebrates. Maintain the increased dosage only as long as is deemed necessary, and observe water quality carefully at all times, making adjustments as needed. No medicinal claims are made for Vtamarin-C, however vitamin-C has been consistently observed to have a positive impact on immune systems, in general. Caution: Keep out of reach of children. Not for human consumption. Guaranteed Analysis Ascorbic acid (C) (min): 1,500 mg/oz. Ingredients Purified water, Ascorbic acid, Buffering agents.
     
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    Stingray Blue Ringed Angel

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    Thanks a bunch, very helpfull, so what about mt alk could this effect him also? K+
     
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    Also i have just put a piece of brocolli in there about 3" wide, is it ok to leave brocolli in there for long amounts of time
    ?