Tang growth rate??

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  1. King

    King Astrea Snail

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    Alright so I can never seem to get a straight forward answer to this question. I get people telling me all the time that tangs will outgrow my tank within 2 years, and yet I see people with sometimes very large tanks tell me that their 4" hippo tang or yellow tang is 4 - 7 years old. :confused: Also, ever time I take my family out to the LFS they always like the tiny powder blues and gold rims, I realize these fish are ich prone but they all seem very healthy. I'll will have to get rid of my tank in 3 years anyways so as long as a small 1-2" tang can live and grow comfortably in my 4' 75 gallon reef for 3 years at the most, than I'm fine. Please try to give me as many first hand experiences as you can, thanks ;)
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  3. Vinnyboombatz

    Vinnyboombatz Giant Squid

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    If you notice on sites that sell fish it doesn't say Yellow Tang minimum tank size 100 gallons but you can put a juvy in a 75 gallon tank for 2 years. And these are people who would benefit from saying that as it would increase their potential customers. Tangs need alot of room because they are active swimmers. In the wild they swim miles a day. I have had several Tangs over the years and NEVER had one come down with ICH. These fish are more suseptible to Ich but the reason IME they contract it is from stress which is what happens to them when placed in a small tank. Here is a good link for you to read.

    http://www.3reef.com/forums/new-hobby/simple-rules-avoid-ich-126326.html
    This thread is not just about preventing Ich but preventing death of the fish in your care. Good luck.;)
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    barbianj Sleeper Shark

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    You like to have your hands full, between the Butterfly, the Dwarf Angels and the Tangs, lol. It's the same story as the others, not impossible, but you need to have an exit strategy. Tangs and Angels can be very hard to catch without disrupting the whole tank. With a Tang, it will more likely be aggression, not size that dictates removal. Btw, do you have more than one tank, or are all of these for the 75?
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  5. King

    King Astrea Snail

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    I guess I do haha:) Besides my 25g nano, yes this is my only tank, but no im not gonna cram a butterfly, tang and 2 dwarfs in my 75 ( im not crazy:loco:LOL ). It would be more along the lines of butterfly+flame angel or flame angel+cherub angel. More than likely I will not be adding a tang to my system, and never seriously considered it, but I just wanted to see what you guys had to say, plus I guess iv been a little trigger happy with my new account (no pun intended, I dont want a trigger too;))
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  6. sneaton

    sneaton Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    ive had a blue tang and yellow tang in my 75 for almost 2 years.....the yellow has taken a while to grow(only 1 inch in 2 years) hes only 3.5-4 inches now,very cool fish.....the blue was the size of a quarter when i got him and now hes 3.5-4 inches too.....i think they get 4" quick then slow way down....ive fed the tank like crazy since i run pellets so hes real fat too.. DSC_0908.jpg
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    sneaton Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    sneaton Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    the 2 tangs swim together everywhere they go.....my plan is to upgrade if/when there size becomes a issue.....i got the blue thinking i would just get rid of her,but its amazing how much i love her....i could never let her go....they can live for 20+years so its a long term pet too
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    Those are beautiful tangs. I can't wait til my yellow tang gets bigger.

    I would say go for it just be ready to act if something goes awry.
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    barbianj Sleeper Shark

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    Haha, good one, I'll give you karma for that one, at least so you have more than 4. :p
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    Kevin3884 Tassled File Fish

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    A little over a year......please try to stick with fish that can live their lives the aquarium you have. If you upgrade in the future...then you can buy fish and watch them grow...

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    sneaton Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    PghSteeler Purple Tang

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    I really like that article very informative, many good points to think about.

    I wish he would list what he feels would be appropriate tank sizes for different species of tangs rather then stating less then the tang police advocate for. Also wish he posted a link to the research on cortisol levels since it does make sense that stress hormones are the only and most accurate way we can tell if a fish is " happy" or not. Also he did not mention any personal experiences with Tangs in smaller tanks besides cortisol levels, the best way the average aquarists to tell if a fish is "happy" would be statistics regarding frequency of disease and death rates which the closest I have seen is people stating tangs in small tangs are mroe ich prone
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  16. sneaton

    sneaton Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    yeah i really wish he would give some idea on his tank size rec....i feel that every fish is different and some individual fish hate smaller aquariums and some dont mind,its up to the owner to look for signs of stress/unhappiness
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    Vinnyboombatz Giant Squid

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    I have become a firm believer that there is a great deal of stunting going on with these fish when placed in smaller tanks. People I have seen who claim they don't grow fast are keeping them in small tanks. I can tell you I have never had a slow growing Tang.
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    sneaton Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    they grow real fast when small then slow down a little at 4 inches....kind of like a baby
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    Vinnyboombatz Giant Squid

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    Not IME.
    Heres a picture of my current Tang.

    Purchased 7/14/2011
    about 2 1/2 inches
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    Picture of him 1/5/2012
    6 inches
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    I am sure there is some variation in growth rate among different Tangs but I have had Blue's, Yellow's,Purple's, and an Achilles Tang that all showed similar growth rates. I am just glad I don't have to purchase clothing for them.lol

    http://www.mrsaltwatertank.com/in-a-world-of-aquarium-crime-there-is-a-man-for-the-job/
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  21. sneaton

    sneaton Spanish Shawl Nudibranch

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    thats the andre the giant of tangs...he did grow really fast,he might keep going...whats your feeding schedule?
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    Vinnyboombatz Giant Squid

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    He's my favorite.Once a day. Switch between Flakes, Mysis, Pellets,and Formula 2. Once in a while I throw in a sheet of nori.;)
    I have another one of these Tangs in my Frag tank which is actually larger then my display(120 gallons). I bought him before this one and it was bigger at purchase. It doesn't seem like it has grown at all. The dimension of that tank is all I can figure that is stunting its growth (it gets fed exactly what and when the other is fed)as it is 2 feet wide by a foot deep and 8 feet long. This is really what got me thinking about the stunting issue. I really should apologize as I was starting to think that people who were calling them slow growers were just trying to make themselves feel better.lol Stunting will cause a shorter life span. How short I have no idea.I have never had any issues with Ich on my Tangs or other fish and I attribute this to low stocking levels in all my tanks. I feel it is probably the most important thing to being successfull at long term husbandry. Lots of fish may look really good but IMO it is a ticking time bomb and sooner or later it will go off.Tank size is very important with this particular fish regardless of its current size.
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  23. PghSteeler

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    Have you kept other tangs besides the one the OP refers to as andre the giant. If so have you noticed any differences in them? I understand you point but it could be that you got the supermale that was mentioned in the article of rarely ever being achieved in the aquarium.
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    Vinnyboombatz Giant Squid

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    Yes I have.Several.;)
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