Fantails rest alot

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  1. fantails

    fantails Plankton

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    Hi. I would like to know what would cause my fantails to rest a lot.

    I have 3 fantails, 40 gal, 3 aqua clear filters 550 gph, temp 75, ammonia 0, nitrite 0, nitrate 0, 2 sponge filters, bare bottom tank, round air stone, I fill my aquarium full

    This is a video of my setup. I took this video when they were swimming around:




    This video show that they rest a lot:



    I would appreciate some advice. Michael
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    Sorry I posted in the wrong section. Thanks
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    2in10 Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Your temperature is too high, should be around 70 or a little lower. The flow is too great for a fancy finned fish, causing it to need to rest.
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    I will lower the temp. What should the flow be. I have 3 filters 2 run at 200 gph and the third one runs at 150 gph. I have temp shut down my Aqua Clear 30 sow the flow now is 400 gph.

    The GAB, koko's they say warmer for fancies. When you read about goldfish like fantails they say that they are a cold water fish but most people say to heat the tanks so confusing so I figured that you guys would know. When I lived in my old house I never used a heater and they had seemed more active. When I moved to my new house I started to use a heater and they seem warm and lazy now. One of my rooms will go down to about 66 in the winter so I will keep the heater set at maybe 68 or 69. I will drop the temp 2 or 3 degrees each day till it goes down.

    I really want to get this resolved. Thanks Mike
    Thanks Mike
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    I think your observations answer your question. Good plan on lowering the temp.
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    I have 2 fantails and 1 fancy fantail. Can they both live in cooler water or do fancies need warmer? I have already started to lower the temp.
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    They all should be fine in the lower temp.

    You could probably use only one of your filters for flow in the tank just fine.
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    I just wanted to let you know that my tank temp is at 69 F and I did remove 1 aqua clear 30 pump so now I have only 2 pumps running at 400 gph. My fish seem to be swimming much better now. I will monitor them today and see what happens. I really do believe that goldfish do better at lower temps also.


    I did notice also that my ryukin when the water was warmer he started to change colors. He was loosing his orange on his pectorial fins and they were turning white and he was loosing his black strips on his fins. Since I lower the water to 69 his colors are all coming back now and he is turning more black his body and head and he now looks like he has a black moustache.
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    Glad to hear it!
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    I kept a bunch of goldfish at warmer temps. Weren't active at all. Got extremely fat quick and died.

    People tell you to get a heater so the temp doesn't fluctuate too much. You want consistent temps so if you can turn your heater to 70 vs removing it, that would be preferred. During the course of a day (without a heater) your temp can vary more than 8 degrees. Constant temp flucs put a dent in the immune system of any fish. Goldfish like it around 70-72.
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    I was told that these kind of fish I have do not like much current the fantails.
    I decided to baffle the aqua clears both of them with a sponge from the aqua clear and I left the flow on high speed and left about 5/8 of an inch on one side so that the water could flow out also and I noticed that the fish have not rested yet . I am trying to see if this is what is causing them to rest a lot. It has been almost 2 days.

    Since I baffled the pumps I decided to put my driftwood back in the tank and I added 1 rock made for aquariums. Will the rock and driftwood collect good bacteria after a while??

    I will eventually take a video again and post to show what I have done.

    What kind of background would be good for fantails. Dark or light colors, plain or design on it like maybe rocks or plant design??
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    Looking at your video I would get black gravel and a black background to show off the fishes color the best. The rock and driftwood will get very little bacteria growth. Again I would suggest using only one filter.

    You don't need the air stone or sponge filters either. One aqua clear will suffice for all the needs of filtration and aeration. Keep the air stone if you like some bubbles.
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    I need 10 X the filtration for goldfish and I need 2 aqua clears to do that. Each aqua clear 50 does 200 gph. If I use a aqua clear 70 it is only 300 gph. I have baffled them now and I leave about 5/8 inch on each side so that they do not over flow and the fish do not sleep anymore. Gravel I do not like. I would have to use aqua clear 110 to get the 10 x filtration 500 gph. I had to put the sponge filters because with no gravel I was loosing my cycle so with the sponge filters it should keep the cycle now. I am going to look for the background Wed. I will video the tank again soon. I do thank you for your advice. Mike
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  17. oceansurf

    oceansurf Purple Spiny Lobster

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    I keep my temperature around 72 - 74 because I have some tropicals in with them. All see to be doing well.