Ammonia in Newly Mixed Saltwater?

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  1. ccardini

    ccardini Bristle Worm

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    So I have been battling somewhat high nitrates (60-80ppm) for a few weeks now. I do weekly water changes on Fridays (20% of total water) and have been having trouble keeping these nitrates down and was stumped. I decided to do another water change today just to try and get ahead of the game. I tested the newly mixed water that had been mixing for 24 hours in a brute tub. Nitrates came out 0ppm. Ok cool good. Just for the heck of it i decided to test the new water for ammonia. It came out green, like 2.0 ppm green! :confused: I use API for ammonia since I have a pretty established tank that shouldn't really have ammonia in it so I don't test for it often. The only thing in the brute container with the new water is a small heater, a thermometer and two koralia nanos for mixing and movement. What confuses me is how my display tests for zero ammonia or nitrate even after I test a few hours after a new water change. My thinking is the biofilter can convert the ammonia from the new water into nitrites and then into nitrate fairly quickly so I am just ending up with a lot more nitrate than I started with. Has anyone else ever experienced this? I use Instant Ocean Reef Crystals as my salt. I have some corals in the tank and I am worried if I do not get this solved they could start deteriorating (SPS, LPS, softies). Any input would be great or any idea why there is ammonia in the new water. :-/
     
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  3. ccardini

    ccardini Bristle Worm

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    I use RODI water by the way and the filters were placed a few months back.
     
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    Corailline Super Moderator

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    The test kit is probably bad. Get a better kit and get the results checked against another test kit.
     
  5. ccardini

    ccardini Bristle Worm

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    Took it to LFS to test to check the kit accuracy. They got the same reading. Also used another API ammonia test I had around to retest. I realize API sucks which is why I have Saliferts for the params that fluctuate more easily (calc, nitrate, pH etc). Just haven't purchased an ammonia one since I figured this should not be an issue.
     
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    Ammonia forms as part of the process from mixing the salt with water. You can cause it to gas off by heavy aerating the water for a few hours or overnight. Do make sure the lid is not on during this process.
     
  7. ccardini

    ccardini Bristle Worm

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    Yes no lid is on while I aerate new water. I have 2 koralia nanos (425 gph I believe) aerating the water. About 12 gallons of water in a 14 gallon container.
     
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  9. Mobalized

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    It's funny because I went through this exact same thing months ago, except I was having the issue in a quarantine tank I believe. Kept doing water changes to get the ammonia down but it wouldn't go down. Because I just kept introducing more ammonia into a tank that had copper in it. Anyways, gave up on quarantining and never had a problem in either display tank with the ammonia causing issues.
     
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    Yeah I am lost..I took the two koralias out and vinegar soaked them just in case but now I tested the new water before even putting them back in and it's still reading around .25ppm. Tank inhabitants look fine other than a few sps who I haven't seen as great of polyp extension. I'm afraid to do a water change again if its just going to add more.
     
  11. Vinnyboombatz

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    Here is your answer.Just keep it mixing until the ammonia off gasses.
     
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    dandk2261999 Bristle Worm

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    I have no solution for you, but am curious if the type of salt could play a factor in this or is it a universal problem.

    I notice with Red Sea Salt it says don't mix more than four hours before adding to the tank.