is my long tentacle plate coral dying pics attached

Discussion in 'Coral Health' started by muggle, Sep 19, 2010.

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  1. ManNurseReefer

    ManNurseReefer Fire Shrimp

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    Mine did good on the sand for over two years before it died a similar death.Just imagine sitting bare assed on sandpaper. You will probably have some problems after a while. May not be a good analogy but it's close. And I believe unclejed had a post a while back that explained that these things do not sit directly on the sand in the wild. I think he's right.
     
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  3. unclejed

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  4. gabbagabbawill

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    I don't see your point. You posted a pic of an Acropora hyacinthus.

    Here are several links about "Plate Corals" or Fungiidae:

    Fungiidae

    Reefs.org: Where Reefkeeping Begins on the Internet - STONY CORALS FROM THE FAMILY FUNGIIDAE A.J. Nilsen October 1997 Aquarium.Net

    where it states:

    and a few more pictures of them in substrate here:

    BioLib - Heliofungia actiniformis (Long tentacle plate coral)

    And then, liveaquaria's description here:

    Plate Coral, Long Tentacle

    Where it states
    So, maybe you are confusing two different types of coral? Or I am confused and we are not talking about actual "Plate Corals"?
     
  5. gabbagabbawill

    gabbagabbawill Pajama Cardinal

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    Yes, but I also do not live in the ocean and am not a coral...

    Many things live in the substrate with soft tissue... my guess is that something else caused yours to die. I really don't think it was just because it was in the sand...
     
  6. ManNurseReefer

    ManNurseReefer Fire Shrimp

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    You need to look further down the page of the link unclejed posted, there are many pics of the fungias in the wild...none of them are on the sand. Go ahead and leave it on the sand. Good luck with it.
     
  7. blackraven1425

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    Sorry, were we looking at the same page?

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  9. gabbagabbawill

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    ok, sorry I didn't look down the page far enough. Some of these appear to be in the sand, though.

    there's no need to get snotty.... I just don't see a lot of evidence in unclejed's post, and there is a LOT of evidence (whether it's anecdotal or factual has yet to be seen) showing otherwise.

    It is entirely possible that some species of plate corals prefer to exist on sandy bottoms, while some prefer to live on top of dead coral "rock".

    I presented several links showing evidence of plate corals existing on sandy bottom. I don't present this as fact, but as evidence.

    Unclejed presented a single link with some pictures that appear to be plate corals on both sandy and rocky substrate.

    I don't think an "all-or-nothing" approach is warranted here. If you want to enter into a discussion about it, please let's be civil and find evidence and try as best as we can to make fact-based claims.

    I would also like to point you in the direction of this article by Julian Sprung:

    http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/april2003/invert.htm

    Where he describes the Heliofungia:

    Do you think that Julian is wrong about this?

    Also, in his article he states that these corals are highly subject to "brown jelly" type infections in which they almost never recover, mostly because they are a single polyp. I suspect this is the fate of many Heliofungia corals in people's aquariums, and probably what got to muggle's coral.

    Also, I point towards the fact that many types of anemones live trictly in sand, which I'm sure have very similar tissue structures as the plate coral.
     
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  10. blackraven1425

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    The other reason I can see is that people know about their tendency to move, and surround them with rocks, as suggested by many reefers. They cut themselves on the rocks as they try to move, and subsequently die of brown jelly infection.
     
  11. xmetalfan99

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    I like to suggest glueing rubble to the skeleton. You can now place it wherever you want.
     
  12. unclejed

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    I would like to state that I took debate in school and like to debate certain subjects. A good discourse on a given subject can be enlightening and beneficial, however, arguing seems to lead to stubbornness. I am guilty of this from time to time myself. This has been fun but I am removing myself from further discourse. There are those coral, Goniapora, Plate etc. that are just difficult to keep for any prolonged period of time. If someone wishes to take up the challenge....so be it...have fun!