ich?? yellow headed goby needs help!!

Discussion in 'Diseases' started by nyvw, Feb 6, 2012.

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  1. Renee@LionfishLair

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    Absolutely there is evidence not only to indicate, but to prove that fish stress when the water temp is increased. It's one of the tests they use when they want to create stress in fish for studies. They call it a temperature challenge. They have measured the stress hormones in the blood when fish are subjected to increased temperatures... or decreased for that matter.

    Besides stress. increasing the temperature allows for less oxygen levels in the water. These fish have more Ich in their gills than you can see on the outside. Ich LOVES the gills because of the easy access to the fish's blood supply. When the gill filaments are infested with parasites, the fish cannot oxygenate as easily. Now you've added another stressor besides just impacting them negatively physiologically.

    Ich does not love cold water. They are pathogenic in water ranging from 68-86. Optimum reproductive temperature is 86. Most do not complete their life cycles lower than 66 degrees F and stay in the encystment phase until the temperatures are again risen. You increase the temp and you are going to have higher numbers in your tank to feed on your fish. The faster they go through their cycle, the more offspring they produce. Every time one single parasite completes it cycle, they on average produces between 200-300 theronts. So as the temp goes up and up to a peak of 86, they are able to turn out more and more and more little vampires.

    The numbers above are the majority, NOT the absolute. There have been Ich found and reproduced under some very varied conditions.
     
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  3. nyvw

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    How long did he last? mine isnt doing too good, the clowns are fine though. Im wondering if i should bother setting up the hospital tank or not....
     
  4. nyvw

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    Would a 30s or so freshwater bath help rid the parasite?
     
  5. coylee_17

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    You could put him in the hospital tank and do hyposalinity, but if you can't get him to eat, he has little chance of making it.
     
  6. Renee@LionfishLair

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    The FW dip won't help, I'm afraid. If anything if may stress him more.

    Can you get any liquid vitamin C, like from Brightwell. People have used Human Grade as well, but I actually don't have any experience with that. Putting vitamin C in the water will help boost his immune system. It won't do anything to the Ich, except give him a little more "something" to fight with.

    Hypo, as said above, is your best bet. I wouldn't put him in copper as that suppresses the appetite even more. Sometimes if they can just get through until the treatment starts working, they'll pick up their appetite again. If his belly is distended, he may be imapcted, and the hypo may help him poop.

    I don't know much about gobies, how would he be without his sand?
     
  7. nyvw

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    Im not sure, but i did see him take a big stringy poop today... so he must be eating something. I worry if i put him in a Qt tank he wont have any pods to eat and then starve unless i can get him to eat frozen food somehow
     
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  9. Renee@LionfishLair

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    Stringy poop isn't healthy poop. It usally means worms or that the fish hasn't eaten in a nice while.
     
  10. nyvw

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    hmm i should prob put him in the qt then?
     
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    can you give us an update?
     
  12. dowtish

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    Either way, after going through all this, I can't believe you havent set up the other tank. I would take this oppurtunity to go ahead and have a QT at all times. they are not hard to maintain at all. and if the fish does or does not make it through this, you can at least have new fish go into the QT to be able to observe them there and make sure they are fat and happy before going into the main tank. just saying...