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01-06-2008, 07:48 AM
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| | Torch Coral
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 47
Posts: 1,181
| Best Time to Take ph readings Hi All,
I tested my ph just as the lights came on in the tank. The reading was 7.9 which is quite unusual as the normal ph .8.4
I took the reading again about an hour later and sure enough it was 8.4
Normal and Current readings for the tank are:
ph 8.4
Calcium 430 ppm
Alkalinity 10.4 dkh
Mg 1300 _________ 72 gallon bowed 150lbs LR 60 lbs LS
2 Percs
1 Chevron Tang
Hippo Tang
Six Line Wrasse
Coral Banded Shrimp
Cleaner Shrimp
Starry Blenny
4 Lyretail Anthias
Long Polyp Toadstool
Montipora
Long Tentacle Anenome
Short tentacle plate
Pulsing Xenia
Green Star polyps
Frogspawn
29 gallon
2 Clown
1 Coral Beauty
1 Fairy Wrasse
24 FOWLR
Dwarf Lion
125 gallon African Cichlid Tank http://home.comcast.net/~pizzal/index.html
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01-06-2008, 08:04 AM
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| | Montipora Digitata
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada
Posts: 1,062
| That's quite normal as pH usually drops at night and rises during the daytime.
The pH will also change as fish are added or removed and even as water is added (or changed).
The important thing is to take your readings at the same time of the day with each testing. |
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01-06-2008, 08:08 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: niles, ohio Age: 32
Posts: 3,589
| I always check mine in the afternoon. Not saying thats right, but that's the time for me.... |
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01-06-2008, 08:18 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Meriden, Connecticut Age: 44
Posts: 4,023
| When you test your pH, you MUST do the testing consistently at the same time or you will have varying results as you found out!!!!
If you normally test during the day, you must always test during the day or vice versa at night time. The reason for this is that pH will shift from daytime to nightime due to the amount of dissolved oxygen in your water. The highest pH reading you will encounter will be during the day with your lights on due to photosynthesis. The lowest readings will be encountered at night as photosynthesis has stopped due to the lights being turned off. You can helpt to decrease this from happening by running reverse daylight lighting in a sump or refugium housing caulerpa or other forms of macroalgae!!!
Be aware of your alkalinity levels as well as a higher alkalinity level will help your water to resist changes in pH(buffering capacity). Less pH swings due to higher alkalinity will create a more stable environment for corals especially.
Over time due to livestock respiration and metabolism of bacteria and animals, acids are produced such as uric, organic, humic acids and carbon dioxide, all which will cause your pH to decrease in due time, so the addition of kalkwasser will help to raise and maintain a stable and higher pH since the pH of kalkwasser is around 12!
Hope this helps
It is advantageous to maintain a balance of buffering and alkalinity to conteract the pH shift tendencies! _________ 125gal.w/Mag9.5 return(dual megaflow)>Mag7 pump Aqua Cev180skimmer.Wave2k Hamilton Reefstar(2)250watthqi(mh)pend.a Yellow, Naso Tang Red Lip Blenny Percula Clown Demoiselles Niger Trigger F. Wrasses Cerianthid Stars Hermits snails Zoos shrooms Montipora Brains Gorgonians Favia Turbinaria Kenyon Tree Acropora Xenia Tridacna (CroceaMaximaSquamosa)
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01-06-2008, 09:08 AM
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| | Stylophora
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Quebec City
Posts: 967
| best time is after your lights have been on for 1-2hour+
TRy a refguim and that should stablize your PH a bit more _________ http://www.3reef.com/forums/image.ph...ine=1200113573
55gl skimmerless, 80lbs live rock, DIY wavemaker running 3x MJ1200 with hydor deflector.
2 DIY fluidized reactors Carbon & ROWAphos
LIghts- 2x 50/50 atinics T10's , 2x life gro T10's ,
1x20,000K T12, 1x6,000K T10.
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01-06-2008, 09:11 AM
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| | 3reef Sponsor
Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Va/Ct
Posts: 4,358
| Just testing a marine systems P.H with a Liquid PH test kits is next to worthless as is P.H anyways you just test for Carbonate levels then the P.H will take care of itself A P.H monitor is the best way .. _________ Some of the world's greatest feats were accomplished by people not smart enough to know they were impossible (Doug Larson) |
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01-06-2008, 09:17 AM
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| | Torch Coral
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 47
Posts: 1,181
| Thanks everyone for their knowledge and experience. I had a feeling that ph flucuated from night to day. Also, I have maintained fairly balanced Alk/Ca parameters, so what you are saying Tangster makes a lot of sense..Everything is flourishing in the tank.... |
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01-08-2008, 08:15 PM
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| | Coral Banded Shrimp
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 46
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| Yup! Tangster's right. I was driving myself crazy til I got a Ph probe.
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180 Gallon Reef, 150 lbs of LR and 4" LS. 4-175w 10k MH. 8-110 W actinic VHO, 2 Wave2K, LifeReef Skimmer . A 90 gal sump, Top-Off. 2Mag 9.5 return, Life Reef CR LCR-1. 1 Cin Clown, Bub coral, Xenia, Purp Tang, Yellow Tang, Pogoda, 4 Gobies, Niger Trigger, Angel, Brittle Star |
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01-08-2008, 08:19 PM
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| | PICTURE POLICE
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Miami, FL Age: 39
Posts: 5,048
| I was always told to check your ph right after your main lights turn off. That will be the best reading. _________ 9YR OLD 90G/55g custom sump/refug Mag18 Aquac 180skimmer 692w MH AC jr,yel&kole tang,midas&convict blenny,B&G chromies,Blk/yel fin chromie blackcap,nemo,neon goby,6line; Blastomussa Merleti,Acan ,BUBBLE,Torch,LTA, Acropora(2) Moon, assort zoas, yel& G star polyps, P&B ricordia, montiporas, cup&candy corals, xenias,B/G mush,flower ane(2), cherry red mussa, dusters,cleaning crew.. |
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02-09-2008, 09:51 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Louisville, GA Age: 45
Posts: 3,485
| I have a question.....what would be the normal pH at night if the pH during the day is 8.3? |
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