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05-08-2007, 06:49 AM
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#21 (permalink)
| | Long-fin Bannerfish
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St. Louis
Posts: 1,623
| I will say this.....for the bioloads which we put into our tanks which are like 50 gazillion times higher than compared to the ocean, I don't try to instantly cycle my tank. _________ Curt |
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05-08-2007, 06:51 AM
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#22 (permalink)
| | 3reef Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wethersfield, CT Age: 38
Posts: 5,948
| I don't try because I know it doesn't work  |
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05-08-2007, 07:52 AM
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#23 (permalink)
| | Teardrop Maxima Clam
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: IL Age: 20
Posts: 800
| So you mean I cant keep a fleet of about 4-5 lionfish in an 8g BioCube using the bacteria?
:p
How often do you have to add cultures of this miracle bacteria newagereefer? _________ 14g Oceanic Cube
Randall's Goby/Shrimp Pair * 3x Sexy Shrimp |
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05-08-2007, 03:22 PM
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#24 (permalink)
| | 3reef Sponsor
Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Va/Ct
Posts: 3,673
| Yes well I read some literature I found today and it said to add the right now stuff once and only once then there was no need for its use again.. thats what I got from the packing info I found .. Its not like you need to add anything every time you change carbon.. I have seen so many instant right now bacteria in a Bottle or the bugs in a bag they came wet freeze dried and all I can say is that none worked well long term or did what they promised they could do. I guess that saying a fool and his money are soon parted still hold water (: OH and my favorite one Buyer beware.. _________ Some of the world's greatest feats were accomplished by people not smart enough to know they were impossible (Doug Larson) |
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05-08-2007, 04:02 PM
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#25 (permalink)
| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by amcarrig Anybody who has been in the hobby long enough knows that there is no such thing as an instant cycle. Never has been, probably never will be. Please correct me if I've misinterpreted the information on your website? | I never say "instant cycle"! It's 24hour cycle there is a big difference.
instant means rigth this minute, 24hours is one full day. |
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05-08-2007, 04:06 PM
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#26 (permalink)
| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by amcarrig I don't try because I know it doesn't work  | this is what I keep hearing over and over again.
How do you know it doesn't work if you never try it.
Do you have any evidence to support that? |
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05-08-2007, 04:17 PM
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#27 (permalink)
| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by MDeth So you mean I cant keep a fleet of about 4-5 lionfish in an 8g BioCube using the bacteria?
:p
How often do you have to add cultures of this miracle bacteria newagereefer? | Not unless the lion are 1 inch in size, aka baby lions.
Bacteria only need to be seed one time, and may be boost in every 6 month or so. |
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05-08-2007, 04:31 PM
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#28 (permalink)
| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by inwall75 FWIW....to get back on track.
Here's a number of species of bacteria that perform aerobic denitrification. Not only that, they are already in your tank. How on earth Bill Hiatt got a patent on something that occurs naturally is beyond me.
| Please contact Bill Hiatt for any patent information.
You are right about the bacteria already present in the tank, however, nitrogen cycle occurred in your tank has two part to play, aerobic and anaerobic. Is the anaerobic part that take the most time to complete.
The Hiatt system is an aerobic process, a totally aerobic nitrogen cycle, anaerobic play no part in the cycle process. A completely different to what everyone is accustom to. |
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05-08-2007, 05:09 PM
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#29 (permalink)
| | 3reef Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wethersfield, CT Age: 38
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Originally Posted by newagereefer I never say "instant cycle"! It's 24hour cycle there is a big difference.
instant means rigth this minute, 24hours is one full day. | Sorry but you'll never convince me that you can fully cycle a tank in 24 hours. PT Barnum did not have someone like me in mind when he uttered his most famous saying. I have no plans on trying the product that you're trying to sell so I don't expect to have any proof or data for you anytime soon. |
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05-08-2007, 05:12 PM
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#30 (permalink)
| | Zoanthid
Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ontario, canada
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| Well personally I believe that going too fast is a mistake. People who try to cut corners in the beginning get bit in the A$@ in the end. I truly believe in properly cycling a tank and slowly adding livestock. I would rather wait a month and have a happy healthy tank in the end then do something quick and end up with a dead tank! There are no magic fixes for nothing in life! Some of the most successful tanks out there were done in the good ol fashion tried and true way. _________ 20g
25lbs LR
1 hydor koralia
rio nano skimmer FISH: blk/white clown, damsel, yellow watchman goby CORAL: grn open brain, acan, torch, rics, toadstool, zoo's
INVERT:[/u] hermits, nassarius, astrea, turbo's, nerites, crocea clam
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