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11-19-2003, 12:16 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Staten Island, NY,New_York
Posts: 52
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 |  Re: Picasso trigger
don't do it. I have heard of one case where it worked our, but more likely it will chew at your coral, eat you inverts and chew up most of the fish you would put into a reef tank ! | 
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11-19-2003, 12:52 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Marina del Rey, California
Posts: 3,524
| Re: Picasso trigger
Triggers are not reef safe.
As aseideman00 said they will harass fish and are extremely territorial with a viciuos set of teeth. They will eat crabs, snails, and ornamental shrimp as those are part of their natural diet. As they grow and can get quite large, they may even nip the hobbiest as you try to clean the tank.
These are great fish in a large fish only tank filled with fish that are of similar disposition. A big/bad boy tank if you will. _________ Just tryin to recreate God's perfection in a glass bowl. 20 Gallon Reef W/Live Rock, mated pair of Maroon Clowns, Softies, 110 watts PC 10,000k lighting, and skimmer.  | |
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11-19-2003, 12:54 PM
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| | Sea Dragon
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Wheaton, Illinois
Posts: 524
Karma: 41
| Re: Picasso trigger
As soon as someone says it can't be done, someone will have a story about how great it worked it their own tank. With that said i would stay away from the Picasso. Most triggers will pick at your corals and they will grind your live rock looking for bugs. Not to mention aggression which usually doesn't work in the reef. I have seen the Niger work but still would be hesitant to recomend it without knowing the other tankmates.
Good luck _________  Starting over with a 210 RR from All Glass, Lifereef Berlin sump, skimmer (installed) and calcium reactor (ordered). Aquatraders Catalina 72" 3x400 mh 10 k/4x96 watt blue PC, Closed Loop with Little Giant 4MDQX-SC and 2- 3/4 Seaswirls. | |
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03-27-2007, 08:13 AM
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| | Spanish Shawl Nudibranch
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Watervliet, Michigan Age: 37
Posts: 88
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Yes I must agree they are not reef safe. I have one and found out first hand after my star polyp starting dying off and didnt know why. The guy who sold it to me didnt know what he was talking about. He told me it was reef safe and would not harm my other fish. Soon as I found out about the picaso niger i removed it and put it in another tank. I think it is a beautiful fish but not very friendly. I am now looking for other fish to put in with it.
Q
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Tank Contents:
55 gal
30 lbs. LR
70 lbs. LS
1 BTA
2 ocellaris clowns
1 yellow tang
2 3 striped damsels
2 blue reef chromis
1 lawnmower blenny
Yellow polyps
Star polyps
3 hermit crabs
11 snails
*Also have a 12 gal nano cube tank
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03-27-2007, 08:19 AM
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| | Flamingo Tongue
Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Dakota Age: 31
Posts: 107
Karma: 19
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I have a Niger trigger in a reef setup with shrimp, crabs, snails etc and it works -- just because he was first and hasn't bothered anything but I would never try it again. I've seen him snatch 1 hermit crab in 2 years but if he goes after anything else he will be finding a new home -- very cool but getting very large as well
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90 gallon with 26 gallon sump/refugium, 2 x 250 MH lighting, 100lbs live rock, 1 - yellow tang,1 damsel, 1 - cleaner shrimp, 1 - coral banded shrimp, 3 - emerald crabs, 2 - porcelin crabs, 6 - peppermint shrimp, 1 - green ricordia, 1 - toadstool, 1 - brittle starfish, 1 - sand sifting star, 100's baby feather dusters,Ass mushrooms, frogspawn, xenia, 1 clam,
6 - Leather coral, Green star polyps,Lime green/orange button polyps,1 huge carpet anenome,various snails/hermit crabs | |
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03-28-2007, 03:36 PM
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| | Torch Coral
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Paul/Woodbury, Minnesota Age: 49
Posts: 1,181
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There are a few triggers that are RELATIVELY REEF SAFE. The Pink Tail trigger, Blue Throat trigger, Cross Hatch trigger and Niger Trigger to name a few. I would never trust these with shrimp and they all need big tanks, 125g or larger.
I just bought a 1 1/2" Picasso for my 120g knowing that I will have to trade it in once it gets bigger. Its got alot of personality and doesnt back down from my 6" Purple Tang which drives the Tang nuts because he is the ruler of the tank. _________ 75g reef with Nova Extreme 8 bulb HO T-5 lighting, refuge, Remora skimmer, DSB, Seio powerheads, Acro's, LPS corals, assorted zoo's & mushrooms, Yellow Tang, Maroon Clown, Blue Cleaner Goby , Cleaner, Fire and Sexy Shrimp, Coco Worm, T.Crocea Clam, Derasa Clam
120g FOWLR, 260w Orbit power compact lights, Remora Pro skimmer, 30g DIY Sump/Refuge, DSB,Seio Power heads, Powder Blue Tang, Purple Tang, Flag Fin Angel, False Eye Puffer, Copperbanded Butterfly and a Moorish Idol  | |
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03-28-2007, 03:47 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Meriden, Connecticut Age: 43
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Every fish is different in terms of temperment and personality! You may get lucky however, if not you could have a set up a very nice and expensive dinner for your Trigger! _________ 125gal.w/Mag9.5 return(dual megaflow)>Mag7 pump Aqua Cev180skimmer.Wave2k Hamilton Reefstar(2)250watthqi(mh)pend.a Yellow, Naso Tang Red Lip Blenny Percula Clown Demoiselles Niger Trigger F. Wrasses Ceriantharia Orn.Shrimp and Stars Hermits Queen Conch asst. snails> Stars Zoos shrooms Montipora Brains Gorgonians Favia Turbinaria(large+small polyp) Acropora Xenia Tridacna (CroceaMaximaSquamosa) Leathers <35+75gal.reef tank as well> 
"IF THE PHONE DOESN'T RING...IT'S ME"  jb  | |
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04-06-2007, 08:07 PM
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| | Fire Worm
Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Albuquerque, NM Age: 39
Posts: 152
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I had one. He rearranged the tank to his liking and ate my cleaning crew! ...well, most of it. The two hermit crabs he didn't eat were just hunkered down under a rock, fearing for their lives.
I just traded him in today for an Ocelaris Clown.
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26 gal Eclipse tank with live rock. 1 - Bi-Colored Blenny 1- Maroon Clown 1- Yellow Tang 3- Hermit Crabs (Inky, Blinky, Clyde) 1 - Turbo Snail 1-Peppermint Shrimp | |
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04-06-2007, 09:17 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Meriden, Connecticut Age: 43
Posts: 3,905
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Beautiful fish for a fish only tank IMO for peace of mind not having to wonder what is going to get eaten each and every day! $$$$$$$lost is probably inevitable! | |
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any one have a picasso trigger in a reef setup i want to know the sucsess rate i hear they arent reef safe is this true. 
