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04-11-2006, 05:34 PM
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| | Bristle Worm
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: the valley, CA Age: 23
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| HELP Mandarin Withering! please help if you could, i have an adult male mandarin who is wasting away. i bought the fish in early February'06 and he has been eating ever since but is noticably losing wait. i have had my reef going for over a year so i would have plenty of pods for eating. and he eats all day but to no avail. the female(much smaller) does the same but is keeping a healthy weight appearence. whats the deal? i have stocked over 4,000 tigger pods in the tank just to make sure there is food available. is this possibly not enough? i know this is a tough species and that is why i waited over a year to fully mature the tank, so what is the deal. any information may prove useful, i would feel terrible to have the female lose her mate.
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50 gallon reef tank. coralife 36 in 96w 10,000 k/96w actinic/ lunar lights, 40lr, 4inches ls, RemoraAquaC skimmer, closed loop flow, refugium, oscellaris clown, bluegreen reef chromis, green mandarin,turbo snails/reef crabs, sand sifting stars, corals: blue striped mushrooms, toadstool mushroom,yellowgreen cup, purple gorgonian, greenblue pipe organ, favites brain, torch, frogspawn, sebae anemone. Zissou |
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04-11-2006, 05:46 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 21
Posts: 3,447
| This is somthing i have come across when careing for dragonets. Some seem to eat fine and are happy and then one day they just are gone. Do you actually see the fish eat? I know with dragonets they will suck at the rock and sand but im not sure if they actually eat uness i see them eating brine or some other food. Try feeding them prepared foods or live brine and see if they go for it. _________ Tank Specs:
55 Gallon Mixed Reef
48" Tek Light: 4-54W T5 HO Fluorescents
Bulbs:
1 x 54w Fiji Purple T5 HO Fluorescent
1 x 54w Super Actinic Blue T5 HO Flourescent
1 x 54w 14000K AquaBlue 75/25 T5 HO Fluorescent
1 x 54w 10000k AquaSun T5 HO Fluorescent
Hard Stuff:
100+ lb. Fiji Live Rock
65+ lb. Live sand |
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04-11-2006, 07:31 PM
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| | KingFish
Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Pt. Richmond, Ca. Age: 38
Posts: 7,519
| That sucks. WHat other foods have you tried? |
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04-11-2006, 08:42 PM
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| | Feather Star
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver, Colorado Age: 24
Posts: 752
| Well its good you had him live this long! The one I bought last week died in TWO freaking days! I know there was no shortage of pods, as my tank has been going for 4 years. All I can guess is with 2 mandarins, the pod pop. is going down FAST even with you adding them. Maybe the female knows of a rock that is the jackpot for pods that the male hasn't discovered? Try getting them on live brine or live bloodworms. I've heard of this being possible. Although in 2 days of mine being alive I didn't have the chance to find out. These are by far my favorite fish, but (and I hate to sound so negative) unless I start seeing tank raised mandarins, I will never buy one again (I've gone through 3). GOOD LUCK! _________ 125 Gal Reef. Born March 2002 FISH: Ocellaris Clown, Yellow Tang, Fairy Wrasse, Sand Star, Hippo Tang CORALS: Green Striped/Red/Purple Mushrooms, Green Star Polyps, Yellow Toadstool Leather, Bubble, Frogspawn, 2 Hammers, Yellow Polyps, Open Brain, Ridge Leather, Various Zoas, Button Polyps, Kenya Tree, Colt, Elephant Ear Mushroom, Clove Polyps, Torch, Purple Clam, Rose BTA |
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04-12-2006, 09:43 AM
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| | Bristle Worm
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: the valley, CA Age: 23
Posts: 127
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| i'll try to find some live brines or bloodworms locally, they are very picky and will not touch frozen brines or mysid. they want the real thing. thanks guys anyone else have any pointers? |
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04-21-2006, 05:05 PM
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| | Peppermint Shrimp
Join Date: Dec 2005
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| Zissou any luck on getting the mandarin to eat live brines or bloodworms???
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Started on Jan 24, cycled on Feb 17
125 gallons (72" x 18" x 22"), 20 gallons sump, 29 gallons fuge. 90 lbs sugar fine sand in MT and 30 in fuge.
Equipments:
Coralife Super Skimmer 220 w/ an air pump to increase micro bubbles, Mag drive 9.5 return pump
2 Maxi 900 and Rio+ 2100 as powerheads, Mag 350 filter
Lighting:
110watts PC, 70watts NO
Resident:
2 Polyps Ricordia
Royal Gramma, Lawnmower Blenny
Sally Light Foot
Pepermint Shrimp
70 Blue Leg Hermits
25 Snails |
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04-27-2006, 03:52 AM
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| | Pajama Cardinal
Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: berwick, PA,Pennsylvania
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  | try bloodworms or brine shrimp my mandarin eats both but maby try adding a few drops of garlic to it sometimes the scent of garlic entices hard to feed fish into eating its worth a shot _________ karla  75 gall, 80 lbs sand, 110 lb lr, 10k pcs, atinics, emperor 400, prizm skimmer, hagen and maxi jet powerheads |
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04-27-2006, 04:13 PM
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| | Bristle Worm
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: the valley, CA Age: 23
Posts: 127
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| hey folks little update on the mandarins, today i fed them live blood worms. the male went into attack mode as soon as they hit the bottom and i saw him pound quite a few. the female remained interested but i am not sure if she ate any, she is shy but definately seemed interested. i am going to keep this up twice a day morning and night. they are such a cute pair, thanks for the concern everybody. i will try to post a pic butit may be subpar(camera sucks). |
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04-27-2006, 07:50 PM
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| | Plankton
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Fort St. John, BC Canada
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| With 2 mandarins in a 55 gallon tank along with a 6 line wrasse you are going to have a very hard time keeping a pod population (I assume you have a refugium for growing pods?) any where close to keeping those guys fed. I have 2 in my 230g and I worry that they are not getting enough to eat. It's great that he has started taking to the bloodworms but I am not too sure if that will sustain him long term as it is not a natural food for them and I know that there is debate on whether they get nourishment from them. You may want to think about putting the wrasse in another tank as they are notorious pod eaters. |
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