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02-15-2006, 04:57 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: B.C. Canada Age: 29
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After I have my tank cycled I'm going to start introducing my livestock, slowly of course, and wanted any insights as to if I may have any incompatabilities. I eventually want :
1 Coral Beauty Angel
1 Flame Angel
1 Blue Hippo Tang
2 Percula Clowns (ac)
2 Firefish Gobies
1 Bi-color Blenny
1 Royal Gramma
1 Jewel Damsel
These are all gorgeous fish (imo) and as far as I can tell should all be reef compatible and fairly hardy. I've heard that dwarf angels should only be kept 1 per tank, but I was hoping that with 75gallons that they would be fine. I only intend on running FOWLR for a while, and may move into some corals and stuff at a later date.
Does this list look like it will be ok for a tank my size? I definitely don't want to push it. _________ I've got a new hobby! 
75g R.E. Tank (48x18x21), 29g DIY Sump, 70lbs Tonga LR, 90lbs Substrate, 4-65W (2-10k + 2-Act.) 48" Compact Coralife Light, Super Skimmer 125 with output mod, 2-Seio 620 PH's, QuietOne 3000 Pump
2 A.C. Ocellaris Clowns, 1 Bicolor Blenny, 2 Cleaner Shrimp, 2 Emerald Crabs, Purple Striped Mushrooms, Blue Mushrooms, Red Mushrooms, Spaghetti Leather, 1 Pink Finger Leather, Green Star Polyps, Pulsating Xenia and 2 Large Feather Dusters! | 
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02-15-2006, 05:15 PM
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| | Bristle Worm
Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Jonesboro, Arkansas Age: 35
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I don't know man seems like alot of fish for a 75. I've always been told the rule is one fish per 10 gallons but i might be off. Otherwise I agree with you. They are all beautiful fish. _________ 
55 Gal Glass, 10 gal sump, seaclone100 protein skimmer, 2 pc 65w 10k's, 2 pc 65w actinic, 2 4ft VHO 110w bulbs, 135lbs of live rock, livesand/aragonite mix, coral beauty, percula clown, blue and yellow damsel, peppermint shrimp, Skunk shrimp, coral banded shrimp, xenia, leather, zoas, star polyps, button polyps, frogspawn, hammer, leather, mushrooms, long tentacle anemone, turbosnails, astrea snails, hermit crabs and a featherduster. | |
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02-15-2006, 05:44 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 21
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i would add any angels last...also for the firefish, unless they are a mated pair they will fight once they are mature..  _________ Tank Specs:
55 Gallon Mixed Reef
48" Tek Light: 4-54W T5 HO Fluorescents
Bulbs:
1 x 54w Fiji Purple T5 HO Fluorescent
1 x 54w Super Actinic Blue T5 HO Flourescent
1 x 54w 14000K AquaBlue 75/25 T5 HO Fluorescent
1 x 54w 10000k AquaSun T5 HO Fluorescent
Hard Stuff:
100+ lb. Fiji Live Rock
65+ lb. Live sand
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02-16-2006, 06:22 AM
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| | 3reef Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wethersfield, CT Age: 39
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I would never put an angel in a reef tank, even the dwarfs that are considered to be "somewhat" reef safe. Once "they" "drop and separate", there's no telling what an angel will do. | |
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02-16-2006, 07:40 AM
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| | Torch Coral
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: St. Paul/Woodbury, Minnesota Age: 50
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I'd be wary of putting 2 dwarf angels in that size tank. They may not get along. I also agree that is too many fish for that size tank even for a FOWLR and especially for a reef tank. I have a 120g FOWLR with a 30g refugium and only 8 fish and my nitrates run high. You might also want to re-think the Jeweled Damsel. They get fairly large, about 8" and lose their beautiful jeweled coloration as an adult and turn a dull brown in color.
Good luck! _________ 75g reef with Nova Extreme 8 bulb HO T-5 lighting, refuge, Remora skimmer, DSB, Seio powerheads, Acro's, LPS corals, assorted zoo's & mushrooms, Yellow Tang, Maroon Clown, Blue Cleaner Goby , Cleaner, Fire and Sexy Shrimp, Coco Worm, T.Crocea Clam, Derasa Clam
120g FOWLR, 260w Orbit power compact lights, Remora Pro skimmer, 30g DIY Sump/Refuge, DSB,Seio Power heads, Powder Blue Tang, Purple Tang, Flag Fin Angel, False Eye Puffer, Copperbanded Butterfly and a Moorish Idol 
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02-26-2006, 01:42 AM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada
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If you want a reef, I would not put any angels in a reef. Some people have luck and theirs don't knip corals. I got rid of mine, it was good for 6 months and all of the sudden decided it wanted my Frogspawn for lunch! It kept knipping and tearing apart the frogspawn. Lucky I was at home when I saw it and got him out to QT. I have alot of coin in my reef and don't need a fish to wreak havoc in my collection of corals. | |
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02-26-2006, 05:59 AM
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| | Sea Dragon
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brooklyn
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Jeweled Damsel will eat small crustaceans and will become very aggressive. Don't keep any peaceful fish like gobies with this Damsel.
Coral Beauty will nip onlarge polyp, stony coral, and clam. Try a Lamarck's Angelfish, they're safe, I have one and they ignore other fish.
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55 gallon. PC lights 12K/Actinic/Moon, Chiller, Powerhead, Prizm Skimmer, Fluval, Eheim Pro2 | |
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02-26-2006, 08:58 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Meriden, Connecticut Age: 44
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Hello,
As far as your fish list goes; I would drop the damsel from your list as they are very aggressive and territorial. They will attack or harrass other tank mates and future ones and possibly kill them. Also, as mentioned above, be careful with the two dwarf angels. The may engage in battles over tank space. You may be ok, but same species tend to fight unless purchased at the same time and as juveniles. This hold true for tangs as well. You may be lucky though! _________ 125gal.w/Mag9.5 return(dual megaflow)>Mag7 pump Aqua Cev180skimmer.Wave2k Hamilton Reefstar(2)250watthqi(mh)pend.a Yellow, Naso Tang Red Lip Blenny Percula Clown Demoiselles Niger Trigger F. Wrasses Ceriantharia Orn.Shrimp and Stars Hermits Queen Conch asst. snails> Stars Zoos shrooms Montipora Brains Gorgonians Favia Turbinaria(large+small polyp) Acropora Xenia Tridacna (CroceaMaximaSquamosa) Leathers <35+75gal.reef tank as well> 
"IF THE PHONE DOESN'T RING...IT'S ME"  jb  | |
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02-27-2006, 03:24 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada
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If you want A Damsel try a yellowtail Damselfish most least aggressive of the Damsel Clan. I have one and he is a model citizen, leaves all corals alone and ignores other fish, and very brilliant blue with a nice yellow tail. | |
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