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05-21-2008, 02:59 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: May 2008
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| Damsel Questions so i put a blue damsel in my tank to start the cycling and i was wondering if that was a bad choice? I only have one, so when i put in a clown or anthius will it attack them? If so which would prevail, due to the comaparison of fish costs? |
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05-21-2008, 03:01 PM
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| | Kole Tang
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Sun River,Oregon (Bend) Age: 34
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| It depends on the size/type of clown and anthias are generally real timid fish. |
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05-21-2008, 03:01 PM
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| | Corkscrew Tentacle Anemone
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver, Colorado Age: 24
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| Take it out and use a raw shrimp from the grocery store to cycle instead. Damsels are evil and get meaner as they get older. _________ 125 Gal Reef. Born March 2002 FISH: Ocellaris Clown, Yellow Tang, Fairy Wrasse, Sand Star, Fuzzy Dwarf Lion, Mandarin Dragonette, Hippo Tang CORALS: Green Striped/Red/Purple Mushrooms, Green Star Polyps, Yellow Toadstool Leather, Bubble, Frogspawn, 2 Hammers, Yellow Polyps, Open Brain, Ridge Leather, Various Zoas, Button Polyps, Kenya Tree, Colt, Elephant Ear Mushroom, Clove Polyps, Torch, Purple Clam, Rose BTA |
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05-21-2008, 03:02 PM
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| | Stylophora
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: CT Age: 28
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| When you say "start the cycling" do you mean the tank was just set up this week? _________ DRILL BABY, DRILL DRILL BABY, DRILL |
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05-21-2008, 03:04 PM
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| | Sea Dragon
Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Weston, Florida Age: 28
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| good choice to cycle w/, if all same size i would say clown, especially if maroon. you never know? it's a toss up they might be fine together, at least the first 2 the last one you decide to add might have to earn his respect. _________ 75gal hex, 2-40w T12 48", odyssea 48" 4x65w PC's w/ lunars, 50lbs LR, 80lbs LS, gold banded maroon clown, dog faced puffer, juvenile blue angel, 2 dominoes, 1-4 stripe damsel, yellow watchman gobie, lawnmower blenny, mano, purple chromis, striped grouper, mexican turbo, astrea and red foot snails, striped, red and blue legged hermit crabs, coral banded shrimp, white and purple bubble coral(very little), red and green mushrooms, orange gorgonian, candycane Tanks, No Thanks. We Free Dive! |
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05-21-2008, 04:29 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: May 2008
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Originally Posted by Bogie When you say "start the cycling" do you mean the tank was just set up this week? | I set the 10 gallon a week ago. I let the water with the live rock, sand, conditioner w/ salt, penguin 100 filter running and my 25 watt heater sit for two day then added 10 red legged hermit crabs, two turbo snails and a green chromis. The chromis stayed under for two days and when i went to go get more live rock i came home to find the chromis being eaten by the hermit crabs. I added the blue damsel after that. Now its been a week. |
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05-21-2008, 04:54 PM
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| | Gnarly Old Codfish
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Silverdale, Washington Age: 59
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Originally Posted by Brandon1023 Take it out and use a raw shrimp from the grocery store to cycle instead. Damsels are evil and get meaner as they get older. |
Sorry, have respectfully disagree once again (polite way of saying "baloney"/"B.S."  ) to any fish being inherently "evil" or "mean."
Many, upon many tanks have been shown here populated by various damsels, along with all kinds of other fish...
Damsels are vibrant and beautiful and loaded with personality (besides advantages of being very cheap and durable)
(Repost from - "Damsel Bully"
No such thing as an "evil" fish...only "evil" people that put them in tank with incompatible species, not enough room or not taking into account living habits...
Shove any six of us in a small room, and see how quick we start tearing each other apart...  (guaranteed won't take long with me in there...  )
I really like my damsels. They bring great color, activity and character to tank...
Can't beat the price. ($4.00 ea for any damsel you want at my LFS) --- maybe I have been lucky, but have never had a ornery one to selves or others.
Again, I think age of fish and when introduced has much to do with success/failure. Also have no so called "docile" fish in tank. All can well hold own against any other.
You know me...never miss chance to post pics... (gotta stay on Luna's good side!)
Guess depends much on what you want and expect from your own piece of reef...takes some thought.     
(looks like I need to keep this post handy, as I seem to have to repost it fairly regularly...  ) _________ AG "125," AquaC EV 180, 30 gal sump, "SCWD", 80 lbs LR, CoralSeaLife "Moonlite" Hood, PFO 250W HQI Mini-Pendant (SPS HQI 14000k bulb)
12 Gallon NanoCube - 24w stock PC 50/50 light "...nothing good ever happens fast in a reef tank, only bad things happen fast..."
- MIKE PALLETTA - (2008 Reef log) ("OmarD"/"Scott") |
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05-21-2008, 05:14 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: TN Age: 31
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| I have had damsels, all different kinds and they are all aggressive, some more then others. The Fiji Damsel as its called now was commonly called Fiji DEVIL Damsel because its the meanest one of them. All the rounder bodied damsels like Dominos etc are really agressive and so are their cousins the rounder bodied clowns such as a Tomato Clown. I had a Domino damsel tear up a pair of clowns. I also had a blue damsel that I used to cycle with that got to the point were it chased EVERYTHING off its side of 48" tank. If I put my hand on its half of the tank, it would attack me.They are fearless little devils! Anybody who says anything different hasn't had them for long or has something else that dominates them and I can guarantee it 100% that as soon as that dominate fish is gone, you will see a different side to the damsels. _________ Got Questions? Need Answers? "Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it." Andre Gide  |
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05-21-2008, 05:15 PM
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| | Stylophora
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: CT Age: 28
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Originally Posted by green1_8team I set the 10 gallon a week ago. I let the water with the live rock, sand, conditioner w/ salt, penguin 100 filter running and my 25 watt heater sit for two day then added 10 red legged hermit crabs, two turbo snails and a green chromis. The chromis stayed under for two days and when i went to go get more live rock i came home to find the chromis being eaten by the hermit crabs. I added the blue damsel after that. Now its been a week. | The first green chromis probably died due to high ammonia and toxic nitrites, which is inevitable at the begining of any tank's cycle process. Usually, you don't add any livestock or cleanup crew (hermit crabs) until after the cycle is complete, which could easily take 3-4 weeks. Cycle time depends on if you are using live sand, liverock (and how much of both), the size of the tank, etc. That first green chromis had No Chance. |
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05-21-2008, 05:24 PM
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| | Sea Dragon
Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Weston, Florida Age: 28
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Originally Posted by geekdafied I have had damsels, all different kinds and they are all aggressive, some more then others. The Fiji Damsel as its called now was commonly called Fiji DEVIL Damsel because its the meanest one of them. All the rounder bodied damsels like Dominos etc are really agressive and so are their cousins the rounder bodied clowns such as a Tomato Clown. I had a Domino damsel tear up a pair of clowns. I also had a blue damsel that I used to cycle with that got to the point were it chased EVERYTHING off its side of 48" tank. If I put my hand on its half of the tank, it would attack me.They are fearless little devils! Anybody who says anything different hasn't had them for long or has something else that dominates them and I can guarantee it 100% that as soon as that dominate fish is gone, you will see a different side to the damsels. | I have to disagree w/ you as well. I have 2 dominoes, a 4stripe, purple chromis and GBM clown (which is practically a damsel, same family diff sub-family, but that's another thread) they live in perfect harmony for over a yr now, i've introduced a yellow watchman, LM blenny, DF puffer, Bl angel and mano after the damsels had been together for over 8 months and never had a problem. |
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