New Tank Thread

techno2 · 09-09-2008, 06:09 AM

Short Summary:
I need to get down to one tank in the house and I have chosen the SW setup.
I have a 12 month old 46 bow front with all HOB equipment. Even though
It is finally going fairly well, I just want more and better from it.

I have sold off my Cichlids from my 90 and was planning on using that tank and stand for
The new setup. The tank is not drilled so I have been figuring out what to do with that.

After looking at all the options, I will be trading it in on a 110 with a megaflow overflow setup.
I want to go with a sump / fuge this go around and have been researching a bit on this.

I have looked at the over the counter sumps like Megaflow, Esopps, ect. I have looked at all the
DIY sumps, ect.

Here are the Cichlids on the day of eviction.
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/017-1.jpg

Everyone is gone, they will be missed.
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/132.jpg

All cleaned out
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/139.jpg

Here are the new tenants eagerly awaiting their new home
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/135.jpg

New base Rock soaking
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/130.jpg

Used 30 gallon for sump going through a leak test
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/129.jpg

Dry fit of my 20 gallon
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/137.jpg

Big pile of stuff
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/138.jpg

Currently I have a problem sizing the sump into the stand. The 30 breeder physically fits,
But the stand will need to come apart to get it in. OK, so if I do that, I don’t see how it is humanly possible to perform maintenance on it or replace parts.

Now the 20 fits very nicely with no mods, and if I had to get at it, I could slide it out with no problems. Problem, with the 20 is I don’t think everything I want to fit will,.

One idea is to use the 20 as the sump, and my 10 gallon as the fuge. Only problem here is figuring out how to get the water from one to the other.

So that is where I am at now. Hopefully I can get the 110 by this weekend…

\Cheers

PharmrJohn · 09-09-2008, 09:27 AM

Don't put anything under the stand that you cannot get out if it starts to leak. I have seen pics of individuals going in through the side and buiding a door to pull it out if need be.

I have a 20g long and have a Mag9, a Rio2100, a small PH for the UV, a medium sized skimmer and a heater. I also have about 6 gallons leftover to cordon off as a fuge.

techno2 · 09-09-2008, 04:01 PM

Thanks
I was thinking the same thing. Although I could fit a 30 long, it would not be accessible and that just doesnt make sense.

I can fit a 20 long and slide it in and out. The exception may be the 20" tall protein skimmer. I am looking into that now.

It can never be easy can it...

\Cheers

lunatik_69 · 09-09-2008, 04:18 PM

OMG, what a mess in that last pic, Im surprised that your wife hasnt nagged you about that yet. If you can make an opening on one of the sides, then you could remove that panel and do whatever you need to do.
Luna

JohnnyBoy · 09-09-2008, 04:26 PM

Looking good! Keep us posted on the progress!

techno2 · 09-09-2008, 04:39 PM

LOL, who says she hasnt been...
I guess at the root, I am so afraid of messing with the integrity of either the tank or the stand that it makes decisions tough.

For example, without the center brace, the 30 long will pull straight out.
Not the bottom front of the cabinet has a fancy modling and does not weven touch the ground. Tells me that its not needed for support, but....

Cheers

Quote:

Originally Posted by lunatik_69

OMG, what a mess in that last pic, Im surprised that your wife hasnt nagged you about that yet. If you can make an opening on one of the sides, then you could remove that panel and do whatever you need to do.
Luna

Otty · 09-09-2008, 07:05 PM

You are on your way.

For your links all you have to do is put [IMG] then the link [/IMG] and it will post the pic. Like this.

techno2 · 09-09-2008, 07:06 PM

Thanks for the tip

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otty

You are on your way.

For your links all you have to do is put [IMG] then the link [/IMG] and it will post the pic. Like this.

techno2 · 09-10-2008, 06:12 AM

With a bunch of measuring and thinking, and yes, a bunch of corona.. I believe the 20 long will be the best way to go. I can get the tank in and out without dismantling anything, and if I remove the two drawers, I can get in and work on things or replace pumps. The cup on the EV180 will be serviceable as well and If I remove the cap, I can even pull the sump out in it’s entirety. These are all very important steps I feel so I do not paint myself into a corner, so to speak.

Anyway, here is the plan I am looking at now.
Whacha think ?

[IMG] http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...nsump-fuge.jpg [/IMG]

Thanks, and cheers

techno2 · 09-10-2008, 03:13 PM

Finally, something fits...
Here is the 20 that I got from the LFS tonight.
Used but it hold water. I will plug the intake somehow.
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ble2mk/001.jpg

Otty, the IMG tags didn't work, whats up ?

The 90 is packed in the car and I am going to the other LFS tomorrow for hopefully a good trade up to the 110 megaflow.

\Cheers

09-09-2008, 06:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
techno2 Millepora Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 936 Skin: Mint Karma: 1221	New Tank Thread Short Summary: I need to get down to one tank in the house and I have chosen the SW setup. I have a 12 month old 46 bow front with all HOB equipment. Even though It is finally going fairly well, I just want more and better from it. I have sold off my Cichlids from my 90 and was planning on using that tank and stand for The new setup. The tank is not drilled so I have been figuring out what to do with that. After looking at all the options, I will be trading it in on a 110 with a megaflow overflow setup. I want to go with a sump / fuge this go around and have been researching a bit on this. I have looked at the over the counter sumps like Megaflow, Esopps, ect. I have looked at all the DIY sumps, ect. Here are the Cichlids on the day of eviction. http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/017-1.jpg Everyone is gone, they will be missed. http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/132.jpg All cleaned out http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/139.jpg Here are the new tenants eagerly awaiting their new home http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/135.jpg New base Rock soaking http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/130.jpg Used 30 gallon for sump going through a leak test http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/129.jpg Dry fit of my 20 gallon http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/137.jpg Big pile of stuff http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll305/double2mk/138.jpg Currently I have a problem sizing the sump into the stand. The 30 breeder physically fits, But the stand will need to come apart to get it in. OK, so if I do that, I don’t see how it is humanly possible to perform maintenance on it or replace parts. Now the 20 fits very nicely with no mods, and if I had to get at it, I could slide it out with no problems. Problem, with the 20 is I don’t think everything I want to fit will,. One idea is to use the 20 as the sump, and my 10 gallon as the fuge. Only problem here is figuring out how to get the water from one to the other. So that is where I am at now. Hopefully I can get the 110 by this weekend… \Cheers

09-09-2008, 09:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
PharmrJohn Giant Squid Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Shelton, Washington Age: 46 Posts: 4,595 Skin: Mint Karma: 25954	Don't put anything under the stand that you cannot get out if it starts to leak. I have seen pics of individuals going in through the side and buiding a door to pull it out if need be. I have a 20g long and have a Mag9, a Rio2100, a small PH for the UV, a medium sized skimmer and a heater. I also have about 6 gallons leftover to cordon off as a fuge. _________ 90g HW: 20g Sump/Fuge, ETSS PSw/Mag9.5, CPR OF/Rio 2100 RTN, 3K3 1K4 PH's(4200GPH ttl flow), 300W htr, Gnd Prb, Denitrator, Tek 8x54W T5. Fish: Hippo Tang, Hmbg, Y-T, Ylw dmsls, Coral Beauty, 8 Line Wrasse. Inverts: HC, CBS, P-mnt shrmp x2, Sandstar, Sea Apple. CUC: 130 D. Crth/35 F. Crth/30 Lg Nrts/25 Vibex/4 Turbos Corals: Frgspwn x2, Kenya Tree, Doughnut Coral, GSP, Zoas x2, Shroom rocks x2, Lobo Brain, Turbinaria, Mshrm Lthr, Fngr Lthr Other: 145# LR, 1-2" LS DOB 5/7/08 [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

09-09-2008, 04:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
lunatik_69 PICTURE POLICE ENFORCER Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Miami, FL Age: 40 Posts: 7,912 Skin: Classic Karma: 45305	OMG, what a mess in that last pic, Im surprised that your wife hasnt nagged you about that yet. If you can make an opening on one of the sides, then you could remove that panel and do whatever you need to do. Luna _________ 11 yr old system, 90g Corner-megaflow DT, custom 55g sump/refug, 692w lighting, Mag-18, AquaC EV 180, AC-Jr, Pin-Point Cal monitor and too many corals and fish to list. Happy Reefing

09-09-2008, 04:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
JohnnyBoy Purple Spiny Lobster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Miami, Florida Age: 27 Posts: 476 Skin: Mint Karma: 2045	Looking good! Keep us posted on the progress! _________ 75g Reef - 10g Mini reef - 48g Custom frag system http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...me/newsig3.jpg *If You Sometimes Feel A Little Useless, Offended, or depressed.... Always Remeber that YOU were once the fastest and most victorious little sperm out of millions!*

09-09-2008, 07:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
Otty Bikers are a dying breed Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Elizabethtown, IN Age: 42 Posts: 6,311 Skin: Classic Karma: 39978	You are on your way. For your links all you have to do is put *[IMG] then the link* [/IMG] and it will post the pic. Like this. _________ Scott 265g (Peninsula) 3x400w MH's, 4x95w Actinics, AAT Lunar Lights, OM 4-way CL, PM Bullet 3 Skimmer, DelZone Eclipse 1, 57w Aqua UV, WavySea Plus for return, AAT Kalk Reactor, KNOP Ca Reactor w/PM Second Chamber, TradeWinds Chiller, ACIII Pro Controller, Oceanus ATO, PM PO₄ Reactor, 75g Sump, 30g Fuge Born March 5, 2007 Parameters My 265 Gal. Tank Thread**

09-09-2008, 04:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
techno2 Millepora Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 936 Skin: Mint Karma: 1221	Thanks I was thinking the same thing. Although I could fit a 30 long, it would not be accessible and that just doesnt make sense. I can fit a 20 long and slide it in and out. The exception may be the 20" tall protein skimmer. I am looking into that now. It can never be easy can it... \Cheers

09-10-2008, 06:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
techno2 Millepora Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 936 Skin: Mint Karma: 1221	Sump-Fuge design With a bunch of measuring and thinking, and yes, a bunch of corona.. I believe the 20 long will be the best way to go. I can get the tank in and out without dismantling anything, and if I remove the two drawers, I can get in and work on things or replace pumps. The cup on the EV180 will be serviceable as well and If I remove the cap, I can even pull the sump out in it’s entirety. These are all very important steps I feel so I do not paint myself into a corner, so to speak. Anyway, here is the plan I am looking at now. Whacha think ? [IMG] http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...nsump-fuge.jpg [/IMG] Thanks, and cheers

09-10-2008, 03:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
techno2 Millepora Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 936 Skin: Mint Karma: 1221	It Fits Finally, something fits... Here is the 20 that I got from the LFS tonight. Used but it hold water. I will plug the intake somehow. http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...ble2mk/001.jpg Otty, the IMG tags didn't work, whats up ? The 90 is packed in the car and I am going to the other LFS tomorrow for hopefully a good trade up to the 110 megaflow. \Cheers

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