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04-29-2004, 11:09 AM
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| | Feather Duster
Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Irvine, CA,California
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| Bubbles in substrate I think I'm on the tail end of an algae bloom w/ my new tank. I don't know if it had anything to do w/ the algae bloom, but I can see where the substrate touches the glass that there are a lot of bubbles formed. Bubbles are rising up from the substrate all the time. The tank is a little over 4 wks old w/cycling done.
Should I be concerned about this?
Will the bubbles go away? _________ 180g acrylic, 110g sump, asm g2 skimmer, 1/3hp arctica titanium chiller, kent marine ro/di 4-stage hi-s |
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04-29-2004, 04:16 PM
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| | 3reef Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Melbourne, VIC,Victoria
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| Re: Bubbles in substrate
How deep is the substrate? ( loaded question for those who know me ) LOL
I would be more concerned if you didn't have bubbles. From my recollection the bubbles are Nitrogen and are part of the normal Nitrogen cycle. In all it just means that every thing is working in a normal way.
John
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04-29-2004, 04:21 PM
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| | Feather Duster
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| Re: Bubbles in substrate The substrate is about 3" deep. So there should always be bubbles? |
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04-29-2004, 09:46 PM
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| | Aiptasia Anemone
Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MORENO VALLEY, CA,California
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| Re: Bubbles in substrate mine always does same depth as yours _________ 135g 3" SB 3- 400w MH, 2 65w PC actinic, 2 10K PC, 40g refugium, EV-180 PS ,Mag 18 ret,1700 PH,2 maxi 1200's air water and ice 5 stage RO/DI |
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04-30-2004, 02:05 AM
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| | Purple Spiny Lobster
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: STATEN ISLAND, NY,New_York
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| Re: Bubbles in substrate i think its the anerobic bacteria converting the nitrates to nitrogen gas. got the same thing _________  &&[glow=red,2,300]Another great sig by Nautilus&&[/glow] 75gal Oceanic Reef Ready, 4x96 Power Compact, 20gal Sump, Protein Skimmer, 5 stage RO/DI Typhoon, 100lbs Live Sand, 100lbs Live Rock, 50 Assorted Snails, 70 Assorted Hermit Crabs, Sandsifter Star, 2 cleaner shrimp, fire shrimp, coral banded shrimp, orange linkia star, emerald crab, sea slug, 2 Clarks Clownfish, BTA, Lawnmower Blenny, Kole Tang, Spotted Watchman Goby, 6-line Wrasse, Engineer Goby, Soft and LPS corals |
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04-30-2004, 06:02 AM
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| | Coral Banded Shrimp
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| Re: Bubbles in substrate This is a very controversial subject. Local Marine biologists argue that unless water is moving through the substrate, only the top surface area is subject to healthy bacterial growth.
Others argue that it is a must to have the entire sand bed sifted regularly. Whether through the use of several sand sifting creatures or by hand movement of the sand. This makes sense, you don't want to have too much gas build up under the substrate and then once it has accumulated to an extreme have all that gas released into the tank. Key term here is "accumulated to an extreme", any large sudden change to the tank won't be benefitial.
That's just my opinion. _________ &&&&20 Gal. , Millenium 1000 & 2000 filter, 130watt Corallife 50/50 reef lamp. Maroon Gold-striped Clown, Pygmy (Cherub) Angel, Skunk Cleaner shrimp, 8 Turbo Snails, 1 unknown cone snail , a branch of red grape calerpa , Sun Polyps, Blue-Green Striped shroom, Red shroom, Zoo Polyp colonies, & Green Star polyps, green monti. |
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04-30-2004, 06:14 AM
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| | Purple Spiny Lobster
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| Re: Bubbles in substrate only aerobic bacteria (those that require O2) will need water movement, anerobic bacteria grow in areas w/o O2 thats why people use a DSB more area devoid of oxygen. |
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05-02-2004, 03:39 PM
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| | Guest | Re: Bubbles in substrate
Those bubbles you see are a natural way of gas exchange as stated above. The only thing i would not do is stir up the sand bed with your hand, this will cause an ammonia spike since you are bringing up die off . Not only that but Nitrates will also rise, no one wants another cycle if it can be prevented. | |
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05-02-2004, 03:59 PM
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| | 3reef Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Melbourne, VIC,Victoria
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| Re: Bubbles in substrate [quote author=GaMmA link=board=Sand;num=1083272960;start=0#2 date=04/29/04 at 19:21:51]The substrate is about 3" deep. *So there should always be bubbles?[/quote]
Yes, there will always be some bubbles that come up from the sand bed if the anaerobic bacteria are still converting Nitrates to Nitrogen. What you are seeing is the very end of the Nitrogen cycle. You see this effect more pronounced with people who have deep sand beds as the Nitrogen is in fact expelled by the bacteria in minute amounts. The minute amounts collect together in the sand bed until a large enough bubble builds up to break through the surface of the sand and escape.
John |
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