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03-21-2005, 02:23 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: , NY,New_York
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| refugium/sump Almost done with refugm/sump would like to know how long should I still run canister filter before shutting down? I also use ugf will I still need this???? and how to you shut that down???
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90 gal,ugf two hagen 402 power heads,filter magnum 350 canister ,150 watt heater,power compact lighting,20 lbs LR,100 lbs base rock,crushed coarl bottom,40 lbs of live sand, 50 gallon wet/dry with refugium,mag 18 return pump,crp cs102 overflow box,seaclone 150 skimmer |
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03-21-2005, 04:05 PM
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| | Eyelash Blennie
Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lakeland, Fl
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| Re: refugium/sump you don't have to shut down the canister filter if you dont want to...
Or you can run it to help out your system when you need it. Carbon, water clarity, chemicals, etc. But if you want to get rid of it I would wait until you have some good biological filtration going in y our new sump, say about 6 weeks. It may be sooner but you probably can't hurt it by waiting.
I have a sump and a backpack. It is nice to get some mechanical filtration and use some carbon easily if you want to.
Jim
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90 Gallon glass, 135#'s of rock and 2" sand. 2-250w 20k XM metal halides. 2-95 watt actinic VHO, 4 powerheads, Coralife skimmer. Maroon Gold Striped Clown, Blue Chromis, Kole Tang, Pygmy Angel, Serpent Star, Brittle Star,Gorgonians, Mushrooms, Yellow Polyps, Turbo Snails & Blue Legged Hermits. 20 gal sump with Caulerpa, Mag 7 return pump. |
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03-21-2005, 05:15 PM
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| | Purple Spiny Lobster
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Clinton Twp, Michigan Age: 27
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| Re: refugium/sump I would shut down both the UGF and Canister in the long run. I would probably shut the canister down when installing the sump. Then in about a month turn off UGF. As Jason mention it may turn out to be an excellent plenum. Just make sure you cap off where the tubes went.
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03-21-2005, 08:26 PM
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| | Feather Duster
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lynnwood, WA
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| Re: refugium/sump Frank,
Just wondering about the depth of the CC and your siphoning scedual? Since you will be shutting down the ugf I wonder if the cc will really create a plenum. As J said, monitor the nitrates and nitrates closely. I had CC for a substrate before and found it to really be a detritus trap and a pita to clean. ..JMHO  If it works for you then great. Anyway good luck and keep us posted.
Scott
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03-22-2005, 02:01 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: , NY,New_York
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| Re: refugium/sump Thanks all just waiting for pump and overflow box Can't wait to finish this project. Hope this will improve water!!! |
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04-23-2005, 11:27 AM
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| | Plankton
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: ny
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| Re: refugium/sump Well people sump is up and running now. The first week of runing sump it got rid of all my red alga e Wow. My nitrates are still at about 40 ppm Hope with time they will start to reduce.Thier are more pics on the sump photo page. Thanks again for the help...
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04-23-2005, 02:32 PM
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| | Whip-Lash Squid
Join Date: May 2004 Location: PhillySuburbs, Pennsylvania Age: 42
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| Re: refugium/sump Looks good! Doesn't the noise of the water crashing down that far bug you?
You are going to have salt creep all over everything with all that splash. _________  I Love My Sig By John Hawkins!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date Started 9/04 58 gallon Oceanic Tank, 20 gal DIY sump/fuge w/ Kent Marine Auto top-off, Air Water Ice RO/DI, 10,000 K 175 W MH, 2 VHO 03's 96W each, AquaC EV 120 Skimmer
80 lbs LR, DSB in FUGE, 1 - 2 " LS in tank
Black Brittle Star, Chevron Tang, Crocea Clam, red & green Lobophyllia, Frogspawn, Porites Frag, Caulastrea Frag, Green Ricordia, Asst. Zoas, hermits, astreas, stomatellas, fighting conch |
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04-23-2005, 03:06 PM
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| | Plankton
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: ny
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| Re: refugium/sump The noise is not to bad but the skimmer has a very large drop spash spash. I would like to get new skimmer lights from fug are making skimmer green inside!!! |
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04-23-2005, 04:06 PM
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| | Feather Duster
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lynnwood, WA
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| Re: refugium/sump Hey Frank,
Just trying to figure out the sump plumbing. I think your skimmer should be in the first section after your tank/ovf drain. Ideally the skimmer overflow should return to the same compartment and then go through your baffel section to the return pump section. This helps to eliminate micro bubbles. Your fuge looks good. Not sure how it is being fed? And I assume it returns to the return section also?
I would also remove the bio balls from the tank drain section. They will eventually become a nitrate factory. You could put some live rock in there or put a felt bag in there for a pre filter like the media you already have.
Hey get some tank shots there for us to see also.
Scott |
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