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06-07-2006, 10:45 PM
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| | Flamingo Tongue
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicago Age: 20
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| Metal Halide vs. T5 I've read a lot of good things about both lighting systems, but which one is best? In other words, which can provide the best light to an aquarium for the lowest cost and easiest setup? My humble newbie reef is running fine on T5, but can that kind of light provide for clams and more demanding coral? Just curious, as I probably won't upgrade to a bigger, better tank for 3 or 4 years (whenever I get my own place and find the money). |
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06-07-2006, 11:16 PM
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| | Bubble Tip Anemone
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver, Colorado Age: 24
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| Well pretty much anyone you ask will tell you that MH is THE best lighting available. It is pretty much the closest to actually having the sun as you can get. It even gives off the much desired shimmer effect. Under MH, you can pretty much keep anything you want as far as corals or clams. There are some rules about that tho, too. Like 150wMH vs 250wMH. But T5s I have read are pretty much the next best thing. I have also read a few clams can be kept under Power Compacts, so I can only assume those same clams would do well under T5s being that T5s are stronger than PC. How big is your tank? How long has it been setup? What do you intend on keeping in it further down the road? _________ 125 Gal Reef. Born March 2002 FISH: Ocellaris Clown, Yellow Tang, Fairy Wrasse, Sand Star, Fuzzy Dwarf Lion, Mandarin Dragonette, Hippo Tang CORALS: Green Striped/Red/Purple Mushrooms, Green Star Polyps, Yellow Toadstool Leather, Bubble, Frogspawn, 2 Hammers, Yellow Polyps, Open Brain, Ridge Leather, Various Zoas, Button Polyps, Kenya Tree, Colt, Elephant Ear Mushroom, Clove Polyps, Torch, Purple Clam, Rose BTA |
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06-08-2006, 02:06 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Meriden, Connecticut Age: 43
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| Both types of light will give you ease in setting them up. The metal halides will run hotter than the t5's possibly causing a raise in water temperature. The metal halides give off glitter lines which many find very attractive and beneficial to corals.
I think it may be what you like better as far as aesthetics(eye appeal). I personally like the halides better and can basically keep any clam, sps etc. under my 250 and 400 watt halides!!!!
Just do a little reading of pros and cons, plus you have to make a decision regarding the kelvin(color of the bulbs) you want to represent your tank. _________ 125gal.w/Mag9.5 return(dual megaflow)>Mag7 pump Aqua Cev180skimmer.Wave2k Hamilton Reefstar(2)250watthqi(mh)pend.a Yellow, Naso Tang Red Lip Blenny Percula Clown Demoiselles Niger Trigger F. Wrasses Ceriantharia Orn.Shrimp and Stars Hermits Queen Conch asst. snails> Stars Zoos shrooms Montipora Brains Gorgonians Favia Turbinaria(large+small polyp) Acropora Xenia Tridacna (CroceaMaximaSquamosa) Leathers <35+75gal.reef tank as well>
"IF THE PHONE DOESN'T RING...IT'S ME"  jb |
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06-08-2006, 12:48 PM
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| | Scooter Blennie
Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 26
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Originally Posted by coral reefer Both types of light will give you ease in setting them up. The metal halides will run hotter than the t5's possibly causing a raise in water temperature. The metal halides give off glitter lines which many find very attractive and beneficial to corals.
I think it may be what you like better as far as aesthetics(eye appeal). I personally like the halides better and can basically keep any clam, sps etc. under my 250 and 400 watt halides!!!!
Just do a little reading of pros and cons, plus you have to make a decision regarding the kelvin(color of the bulbs) you want to represent your tank. | Coral_reefer, I have read that their is no evidence of the benefits of the "shimmer", but I do think that it is in some way beneficial. I know it gives them a feeling of a natural setting and makes them feel right at home. It could benefit their mood a lot. I know they are able to sense it as there is a lot of shadowing.
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30g reef tank, CPR CY192 filter w/ DIY plumb running Rio 17HF return, Coralife 3x 9w UV Sterilizer, 3 24W T5-Helios 10K Daylights/3 24W T5-Helios Blue lights, 2 Logysis blue meteor light strobes (moonlights/24 Blue LEDs).
Tiger tail cuke, asst. snails/hermits, asst. feathers, rainbow acan,zoos,shrooms,bubble,galaxea, asst. shrimp, 2 ocellaris,mandarin,zebrasoma xanthurum,pink-spot watchman,red-striped pistol. |
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06-08-2006, 01:57 PM
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| | Eyelash Blennie
Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lakeland, Fl
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| Funny that you should mention this ( shimmer or glimmer ) I just read this article from Advanced Aquarist by Dana Riddle a couple of days ago. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2006/5/aafeature
I personally feel that it's all about the PAR or PPFD and if you can achieve the desired PPFD level with T5's... Then Metal halides wouldn't be any better. Once you reach a lighting saturation level it really doesn't improve your corals health or growth.
Now there's 2 cc's of aquarium water
Jim
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90 Gallon glass, 135#'s of rock and 2" sand. 2-250w 20k XM metal halides. 2-95 watt actinic VHO, 4 powerheads, Coralife skimmer. Maroon Gold Striped Clown, Blue Chromis, Kole Tang, Pygmy Angel, Serpent Star, Brittle Star,Gorgonians, Mushrooms, Yellow Polyps, Turbo Snails & Blue Legged Hermits. 20 gal sump with Caulerpa, Mag 7 return pump. |
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06-08-2006, 06:45 PM
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| | Fire Worm
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: OREGON
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| its basiclly what they are all stating its the shimmer if you dont care u can use t5's they will work, i personally like the MH myself _________  dang lazy cleaner shrimp! |
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06-08-2006, 07:00 PM
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| | Flamingo Tongue
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chicago Age: 20
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| I was just curious as I have heard different things from different people. I have a 55gal (1 year old) with a T5 Nova Extreme from Current, 2 10K's and 2 actinics, and my montipora digita, gorgonians and polyps seem to be doing fine. The monti has been in there for 4 months (it has about tripled its size)and the others 1 month. I was especially curious about the clams and more light-intensive coral like acros as I would like to get them in the future once I get more experience with the easier stuff. |
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06-08-2006, 08:26 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 20
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| My 2 cents,
If you are able to maintain a metal halide system meaning:
1. Keep temp under control.
2. Have the $
Well there really isnt anything that a t-5 has over the mh when it comes to coral growth.
IMO tT-5HO are wonderful. I have what used to be a neon green acropora in my 55gal. Over the months under pc lights it turned brown...now only a month after my T-5HO lighting it is already almost fully green and i can see signs of neon.
The T-5HOs are great because they are much more powerful than pcs and yet dont cause alot of heat.
If you are not worried about heat...then mh might would be fine. _________ Tank Specs:
55 Gallon Mixed Reef
48" Tek Light: 4-54W T5 HO Fluorescents
Bulbs:
1x 54W Blue Plus T5 HO Fluorescent, 1x54w Super Actinic Blue 03 T5 HO Flourescent
1x 54W 12000K Aquablue Special T5 HO Fluorescent, 1x 54w 10000k AquaSun T5 HO Fluorescent
100 lbs Fiji Live Rock
65 lbs Live sand |
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06-08-2006, 10:16 PM
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| | Fire Worm
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: OREGON
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| just add a small computer fan to a ac converter cost be about 15 and it cools them down really fast or you can put on over your sump to cool it down. |
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06-08-2006, 10:22 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 20
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| Yup...but fans do not always work...if the room is hot nothing can help...i learved that when my power went out with record heat....not fun. Even with a jumbo warehouse fan running with my generator the tank still got to about 80 in a few hours...luckly it was dark before it could go 2 high. |
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