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05-28-2008, 01:04 AM
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| | Bubble Tip Anemone
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: West Midlands,UK
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|  Actinics
Alot of you guys have actinics at around 10.000k the 2 bulbs in my tank 39watt are actinic+ 22.000k what is the difference and how can it benefit me or not,
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05-28-2008, 01:53 AM
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| | Montipora Capricornis
Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Manchester UK Age: 24
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the actinics aren't 10k, its the normal whites that are 10k _________ You will never know whats in my tank as i can only type 15 words  | 
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05-28-2008, 02:07 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Meriden, Connecticut Age: 44
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Actinics and 10000K bulbs are at different ends of the spectrum. Actinics are around 420-470nm where 10000K are around 700nm. Actinics are blue/purple in color while the 10000K are a white looking bulb with more of the spectrum being evident. _________ 125gal.w/Mag9.5 return(dual megaflow)>Mag7 pump Aqua Cev180skimmer.Wave2k Hamilton Reefstar(2)250watthqi(mh)pend.a Yellow, Naso Tang Red Lip Blenny Percula Clown Demoiselles Niger Trigger F. Wrasses Ceriantharia Orn.Shrimp and Stars Hermits Queen Conch asst. snails> Stars Zoos shrooms Montipora Brains Gorgonians Favia Turbinaria(large+small polyp) Acropora Xenia Tridacna (CroceaMaximaSquamosa) Leathers <35+75gal.reef tank as well> 
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05-28-2008, 10:41 AM
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| | 3reef Sponsor
Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Va/Ct
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Only tube type bulb I'm aware of that offers a true 10K is the URI brand Aqua sun Lamps. Their URI actinic whites are as close to a true 12K and a great mix of gasses . Their Aqua Sun is 10 K they suck as all tube type 10 K never use any bulb with the word sun in it the URI Super Actinic burns at 420nm a true Actinic. I any of you run any type of a tube bulb then URI or U/V is all I'd burn there are none better . and after you once try them you'll never switch back .. To the purple Actinics . (: But if you ever ran a system with a 50/50 mix of their super actinic and the actinic white then you'll never change once you see the difference . _________ Some of the world's greatest feats were accomplished by people not smart enough to know they were impossible (Doug Larson) | |
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05-28-2008, 10:55 AM
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| | Aiptasia Anemone
Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Weston, Florida Age: 28
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actinics are for pigmentation in livestock and plants, spectrum resembles the absorbtion peak of chlorophyll-a, which is the most important pigment in plant cells.
The Kelvin scale, as it applies to aquariums, is realated to depth and/or time of day the light is simulating. which is really just a selling point, cause it's not exact, because the light itself is not a true black body radiator there's no way the Kelvin scale can be accurate. it's more of what it looks like to the human eye. _________ 75gal hex, 2-40w T12 48", odyssea 48" 4x65w PC's w/ lunars, 50lbs LR, 80lbs LS, gold banded maroon clown, dog faced puffer, juvenile blue angel, 2 dominoes, 1-4 stripe damsel, yellow watchman gobie, lawnmower blenny, mano, purple chromis, striped grouper, mexican turbo, astrea and red foot snails, striped, red and blue legged hermit crabs, coral banded shrimp, white and purple bubble coral(very little), red and green mushrooms, orange gorgonian, candycane  Tanks, No Thanks. We Free Dive! | |
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05-29-2008, 09:04 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: May 2008 Location: South west Florida Age: 24
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Originally Posted by Tangster  Only tube type bulb I'm aware of that offers a true 10K is the URI brand Aqua sun Lamps. Their URI actinic whites are as close to a true 12K and a great mix of gasses . Their Aqua Sun is 10 K they suck as all tube type 10 K never use any bulb with the word sun in it the URI Super Actinic burns at 420nm a true Actinic. I any of you run any type of a tube bulb then URI or U/V is all I'd burn there are none better . and after you once try them you'll never switch back .. To the purple Actinics . (: But if you ever ran a system with a 50/50 mix of their super actinic and the actinic white then you'll never change once you see the difference . | do you have any links to some articles on this.
I have always been skeptic on lighting and right now am in learing mode.
any info i can absorb is GREAT. seeing how i dont want to spend a fortune on lighting that is going to suck i would like to do the proper research and find out what really works and not just what advertising works.
you seem to have a wealth of knowledge. 
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60g fowlr tank soon to have corals once
water chem stays pretty constant and good.
pair false percs, fire gobies, sand sifter gobie, scallop, cleaner, peppermint, and coralbanded shrimp, plus cleaner crew+chaeto | |
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05-30-2008, 03:26 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Elizabethtown, IN Age: 40
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Originally Posted by mr40g do you have any links to some articles on this.
I have always been skeptic on lighting and right now am in learing mode.
any info i can absorb is GREAT. seeing how i dont want to spend a fortune on lighting that is going to suck i would like to do the proper research and find out what really works and not just what advertising works.
you seem to have a wealth of knowledge. | It's all upstairs in his brain, he needs a USB port so we can download his knowledge and experiences.  Tangster is speaking from his own experiences and not something he read in a book. _________ Scott 265g (Peninsula)
3x400w MH's, 4x95w Actinics, AAT Lunar Lights, OM 4-way CL, PM Bullet 3 Skimmer, DelZone Eclipse 1 O3 Generator, WavySea Plus for return, AAT Kalk Reactor, KNOP Ca Reactor w/PM Second Chamber, TradeWinds Chiller, ACIII Controller, Oceanus ATO, PM PO4 Reactor, 75g Sump, 30g Fuge Born March 5, 2007 My 265 Gal. Tank Thread " REAL TIME TANK STATS "   | |
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05-30-2008, 07:58 AM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: May 2008 Location: South west Florida Age: 24
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well in that case we should frag out his brain( just a lil piece) and start selling the little pieces that grow and that will help get the new server for 3reef.  | |
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05-30-2008, 08:44 AM
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| | 3reef Sponsor
Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Va/Ct
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I'll see if I can locate the U/V Tech sight then you can read until you can stand it I as a rule never do a link to what someone else thinks they know I just speak from what I know as there few standars in this hobby if any at all. I don't really bother with Technical Data unless it pertained to my former Business .. With aquariums I know what works and why it works for me and all who try it , and I know URI now U/V makes the beat bulbs . They are the state of the art for all specialty bulbs form Operating rooms to Dentist office to Tanning Beds to Treatment Lamps in Dermatologists office's on to the new blue white 15K Head Lights on Cars .. No tube bulb from any one for an aquarium can compete or get close. I have access to any kind I want and I won't use anything But URI's or U/V for any Fluorescent applications and SPS for M/H's . U/V aka URI are to aquarium lighting bulbs that SONY is to electronics .. or NASA is to Space or Cambell's is to soup .. | |
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05-30-2008, 12:41 PM
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| | Aiptasia Anemone
Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Weston, Florida Age: 28
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Originally Posted by Tangster I'll see if I can locate the U/V Tech sight then you can read until you can stand it I as a rule never do a link to what someone else thinks they know I just speak from what I know as there few standars in this hobby if any at all. I don't really bother with Technical Data unless it pertained to my former Business .. With aquariums I know what works and why it works for me and all who try it , and I know URI now U/V makes the beat bulbs . They are the state of the art for all specialty bulbs form Operating rooms to Dentist office to Tanning Beds to Treatment Lamps in Dermatologists office's on to the new blue white 15K Head Lights on Cars .. No tube bulb from any one for an aquarium can compete or get close. I have access to any kind I want and I won't use anything But URI's or U/V for any Fluorescent applications and SPS for M/H's . U/V aka URI are to aquarium lighting bulbs that SONY is to electronics .. or NASA is to Space or Cambell's is to soup .. | Are these the bulbs you're refering to? URI Fluorescent Light Bulbs | |
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