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psiclone · 06-29-2009, 07:44 PM

Well hopefully you can help me with these latest varieties john im starting to go mad with all the different types of algae I've had.

Ok the latest problems.

Red turf like algae which seemed to be dormant until late. No new nutrients spikes or anything. Running phosphate and carbon reactors. Chaeto in the sump. tests all zero.

And this other nuisance algae. Seems to grow fairly fast sometimes in clumps sometimes solo. No real branches for the most part or feathery ends.

sorry for the dark pics ive scrubbed it off the rock in the lighter spots.

jakeh24 · 06-29-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by johnmaloney

thanks for the info! is the algae to the right different?
tons of coralline on that rock by the way, I am pretty sure that species of coralline is Neogoniolithon fosliei. Does it seem to shed a bit at times?

yes its different

sure does shed (i thought i was doing something wrong or something was off when some of it started falling off)

your a pro

do i get a second try lol or only one go per person?

johnmaloney · 06-29-2009, 07:51 PM

psiclone-
that red fuzzy algae i bet is one of the ceramium species. the red algae are pretty diverse and without a microscope you aren't going to do better than that, usually referred to as red turf algae, red hair algae in the hobby. It is edible but most things don't like it. It seems to grow much faster in warmer temperatures. Arrow crabs eat it oddly enough, so do some of the larger decorators. How reef safe those critters are though.. snails seem to pick at it, but it certainly isn't a favorite, and it seems to be able to grow really quickly. I recently cleaned a rock of it by sticking it in a holding tank with a few thousand dwarf ceriths. It did the trick, but I am one of the few people who get that privilege. Hard to remove, brushing it in the tank will spread it, out of the tank doesn't seem to always get it all, and just a little bit spreads fast... Temperature I think would play a part in its control.

it could also just be some cyano, it is hard to see from the picture looking at it again, how easily does it rub off with a tooth brush?

second picture I am going with hair algae from what I can see.

johnmaloney · 06-29-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jakeh24

yes its different

sure does shed (i thought i was doing something wrong or something was off when some of it started falling off)

your a pro

do i get a second try lol or only one go per person?

go for it. eventually i will talk you into letting me link the pics in an algae id guide.

psiclone · 06-29-2009, 07:54 PM

Yet another fun algae for my tank to deal with. What do you suggest? The arrow crab?

johnmaloney · 06-29-2009, 08:09 PM

arrow crabs have their own problems though, you also got to make sure you have one that is still eating algae, most omnivorous crabs go from eating algae at some point in their life to eating a meatier diet. hard call. i edited the post above too by the way. wasnt sure if cyano was ruled out.

jakeh24 · 06-29-2009, 08:17 PM

well you gave me the thumbs up so im going for it

all i know about this stuff is its kind of vine-ish or so
and maroonish red

psiclone · 06-29-2009, 08:17 PM

yeah. I did have some success with one of your chitons that survived although my clowns ended up pestering him to death. It is not easy to brush off at all. Takes like 2 minutes an inch. And the other picture I don't believe is hair algae. Not slimey and too hard to pull off the rock.

johnmaloney · 06-29-2009, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by psiclone

yeah. I did have some success with one of your chitons that survived although my clowns ended up pestering him to death. It is not easy to brush off at all. Takes like 2 minutes an inch. And the other picture I don't believe is hair algae. Not slimey and too hard to pull off the rock.

hmm, okay i will look into it more, is it green? that one might get me, i am getting the book now....

red turf algae then. i sometimes think that I overthink ids, but it is that kind of thinking gets me into trouble.

psiclone · 06-30-2009, 06:26 AM

Yes its a dark green. Appears to grow in straight lines and about the consistency of fine fishing line. I'd like to order some more chitons but do you think they would make the overnight trip this time? Jason got his overnight with no problems and hes farther out of town than me!

06-29-2009, 07:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
psiclone Peppermint Shrimp Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Reno,NV Age: 25 Posts: 401 Skin: Mint Karma: 4798	Well hopefully you can help me with these latest varieties john im starting to go mad with all the different types of algae I've had. Ok the latest problems. Red turf like algae which seemed to be dormant until late. No new nutrients spikes or anything. Running phosphate and carbon reactors. Chaeto in the sump. tests all zero. And this other nuisance algae. Seems to grow fairly fast sometimes in clumps sometimes solo. No real branches for the most part or feathery ends. sorry for the dark pics ive scrubbed it off the rock in the lighter spots. _________ 55 gallon acrylic tank, 29 gallon high sump- 4x54w t5ho 2xUVL superactinics 2x 75/25 UVLs, 75+lbs liverock 100+lbs sand, 2 Koralia #2s Turboflotor 1000 blue skimmer, Mag 9.5 Return, 800gph overflow Livestock: Clowns x ii, Hippo Tang, Algae Blenny, Mandarin Goby, CUC. Corals: 4 types of zoas, 2 palys, 2 clove polyps,GSPs, candy cane, hammer

06-29-2009, 07:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
johnmaloney 3reef Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,237 Skin: Dark Karma: 12230	psiclone- that red fuzzy algae i bet is one of the ceramium species. the red algae are pretty diverse and without a microscope you aren't going to do better than that, usually referred to as red turf algae, red hair algae in the hobby. It is edible but most things don't like it. It seems to grow much faster in warmer temperatures. Arrow crabs eat it oddly enough, so do some of the larger decorators. How reef safe those critters are though.. snails seem to pick at it, but it certainly isn't a favorite, and it seems to be able to grow really quickly. I recently cleaned a rock of it by sticking it in a holding tank with a few thousand dwarf ceriths. It did the trick, but I am one of the few people who get that privilege. Hard to remove, brushing it in the tank will spread it, out of the tank doesn't seem to always get it all, and just a little bit spreads fast... Temperature I think would play a part in its control. it could also just be some cyano, it is hard to see from the picture looking at it again, how easily does it rub off with a tooth brush? second picture I am going with hair algae from what I can see. _________ Here is a link to our sponsor section on this website. Here is our website, we do clean up crews, macroalgae, and rocks. Last edited by johnmaloney; 06-29-2009 at 08:06 PM.

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06-29-2009, 07:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
psiclone Peppermint Shrimp Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Reno,NV Age: 25 Posts: 401 Skin: Mint Karma: 4798	Yet another fun algae for my tank to deal with. What do you suggest? The arrow crab?

06-29-2009, 08:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
johnmaloney 3reef Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,237 Skin: Dark Karma: 12230	arrow crabs have their own problems though, you also got to make sure you have one that is still eating algae, most omnivorous crabs go from eating algae at some point in their life to eating a meatier diet. hard call. i edited the post above too by the way. wasnt sure if cyano was ruled out.

06-29-2009, 08:17 PM	#18 (permalink)
psiclone Peppermint Shrimp Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Reno,NV Age: 25 Posts: 401 Skin: Mint Karma: 4798	yeah. I did have some success with one of your chitons that survived although my clowns ended up pestering him to death. It is not easy to brush off at all. Takes like 2 minutes an inch. And the other picture I don't believe is hair algae. Not slimey and too hard to pull off the rock.

06-30-2009, 06:26 AM	#20 (permalink)
psiclone Peppermint Shrimp Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Reno,NV Age: 25 Posts: 401 Skin: Mint Karma: 4798	Yes its a dark green. Appears to grow in straight lines and about the consistency of fine fishing line. I'd like to order some more chitons but do you think they would make the overnight trip this time? Jason got his overnight with no problems and hes farther out of town than me!