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Old 02-26-2008, 07:00 AM   #11 (permalink)
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prizm can be used to clean the PM Bullet 3 cup :-D not to keep the water of a tank clear..

here in italy when you speak about a prizm you are watched like a fresh water hobbist not a reef tank keeper

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Old 02-26-2008, 08:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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A Prizim is junk as are all HOB skimmers Now the red sea Berlin classic if a fine skimmer and not many is its range can hang with it I love then on smaller tank and dollar for Dollar they will hold their own with in there class.

Take it fwiw, but I beg to differ. Now there are two great HOB skimmers - Deltec MCE600 and the new ATB Cone HOB skimmer utilizing a hagen PH with enlarged volute and meshwheel.

I also have to disagree with the Berlin, I find it's performance to be less than mediocre. With today's newer venturi designs(beckets, elos and schuran come to mind) and the advent of NW's & Meshwheels and their improvement... it's difficult to recomment such an outdated design. If you're looking at that price point, the Aqua-Medic Turbofloater is a much better performer and widely available.

With that said, PM makes extremely high quality products. Their Bullet line is one of, if not the best becket designs out there only rivaled by Barr/Austin Oceans. Is it better than ETSS? tough to say, but i would say both are on par in terms of performance.

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Old 02-26-2008, 11:19 PM   #13 (permalink)
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ATB Cone skimmers seems the ugly brother of the Korallen Zucht cone simmers.. Korallen-Zucht.de - Shop

and i can see they are also expencive.. but a bit less then KZ revolution
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I personally find them much more attractive then neon orange acrylic, each to to their own.

ATB has made cone skimmers for some time now, with BK making the first cone skimmer and the KZ design being out for some years. (it is a taiwainese skimmer originally)
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