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Old 10-11-2011, 06:19 PM   #11
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The Blu Demon is slightly less when you consider the bioload ratings, and a much nicer skimmer. The Blu Demon runs 2 Sicce pumps as well so it won't heat your water like the Twisted's mag unit will.
Just got a new Bashsea Blu Demon Needlewheel Skimmer w/pics - Michigan Reefers
Those i cant find a place to buy them from?
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The Blu Demon is slightly less when you consider the bioload ratings, and a much nicer skimmer. The Blu Demon runs 2 Sicce pumps as well so it won't heat your water like the Twisted's mag unit will.
Just got a new Bashsea Blu Demon Needlewheel Skimmer w/pics - Michigan Reefers
How do you clean that thing? unscrew all of those screws??
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Old 10-11-2011, 06:33 PM   #13
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How do you clean that thing? unscrew all of those screws??
Yes just a small twist then the collection cup comes right off, only needs 3/8" clearance.
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Old 10-11-2011, 06:38 PM   #14
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well what type of reef will you have? softies/lps, mixed, or sps
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Old 10-11-2011, 06:41 PM   #15
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well what type of reef will you have? softies/lps, mixed, or sps
Im thinking mixed mostly SPS though
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The Blu Demon is slightly less when you consider the bioload ratings, and a much nicer skimmer. The Blu Demon runs 2 Sicce pumps as well so it won't heat your water like the Twisted's mag unit will.
Just got a new Bashsea Blu Demon Needlewheel Skimmer w/pics - Michigan Reefers
So why talk of a prototype that isn't proven and has no real feed back on yet?
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Do you have to unscrew the lid off of the bashea? It looks like a pain compared to the octopus.
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Do you have to unscrew the lid off of the bashea? It looks like a pain compared to the octopus.
Yes you do but requires less clearance then the RO. welcome to 3 reef
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Im thinking mixed mostly SPS though
if your doing mostly sps then i would say go with a bashsea or else an ETSS. The ETSS have been proven again and again and are much better for 200g+ tanks.

A lot of people that i know with 10-20 years experience still use ETSS skimmers (Dan Rigle, Sanjay on his home reef and the PSU one).

With needle wheels you have to clean the pumps every few months for them to work properly. They only pull out this light green "tea" like liquid.
With downdraft skimmers you are literally pulling out a solid stinky "mud" from your tank. I think there are more DOM in "mud" than in "tea"

And lastly, the needlewheels have to be replaced every couple of years and the pumps go bad and the technology is constantly being outdated and the pumps need mods just to make them work better... On the other hand, a downdraft paired with the proper pump will last you 10+ years and never need a mod to make it work better.
Seriously give a downdraft a thought, after a few years of dealing with the needlewheel pains, I have decided to go with an ETSS.
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:14 PM   #20
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if your doing mostly sps then i would say go with a bashsea or else an ETSS. The ETSS have been proven again and again and are much better for 200g+ tanks.

A lot of people that i know with 10-20 years experience still use ETSS skimmers (Dan Rigle, Sanjay on his home reef and the PSU one).

With needle wheels you have to clean the pumps every few months for them to work properly. They only pull out this light green "tea" like liquid.
With downdraft skimmers you are literally pulling out a solid stinky "mud" from your tank. I think there are more DOM in "mud" than in "tea"

And lastly, the needlewheels have to be replaced every couple of years and the pumps go bad and the technology is constantly being outdated and the pumps need mods just to make them work better... On the other hand, a downdraft paired with the proper pump will last you 10+ years and never need a mod to make it work better.
Seriously give a downdraft a thought, after a few years of dealing with the needlewheel pains, I have decided to go with an ETSS.
Dan rigles stuff looks great to. Thanks bro for the info your always very helpful. The ETSS is a downdraft just like the Bashsea?
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