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07-17-2004, 01:27 PM
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| | Flamingo Tongue
Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chicago, IL,Illinois
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| understanding the tank cycle Ok, LR takes care of ammonia and nitrite's. Then a refugium will help take care of nitrites also.
Correct?
Then what takes care of the nitrates? Won't a DSB become overcome with nitrates?
Or do sandsifting stars and other stars help take care of the nitrates?
I've been reading about tank crashes and I'm attempting to figure out everything that could possibly go wrong before I dive in. And I'm wondering if the nitrate buildup would cause this "crash". If so, how to prevent it naturally.
Was thinking about getting a horseshoe crab to help in the aid but heard they grow too fast. (when someone says too fast, how fast do they grow? an inch a year?)
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07-17-2004, 02:36 PM
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| | Flamingo Tongue
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| Re: understanding the tank cycle So water changes are what help take care of nitrate levels? |
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07-17-2004, 03:15 PM
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| | 3reef Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Melbourne, VIC,Victoria
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| Re: understanding the tank cycle
The link that Fletch provided shows the Nitogen cycle very well. Ammonia - Nitrite - Nitrate.. Once the tank is up and running ( cycling ) you can almost forget about the Ammonia - Nitrite part of the cycle as the bacteria responsible will increase and delcine depending on the amount of food available. eg: You add a new fish, bacteria slowly increase until you get back into a balanced cycle.
The problem ( some say obsession ) is with the Nitrate component. The only way to remove Nitrate without using a chemical solution is either by anaerobic bacteria or with magro algae or with mangrove plants.
The anerobic ( without oxygen ) method was by far the preferred method and intoduced things like the plenum system and the Deep Sand Bed. The problem that is now perceived with these systems is the accumulation of organic material which could cause a build up of Hydrogen Sulfide which if released will cause the tank to "crash" So, far more popular now is using macro algae and or mangrove plants in a sump ( refugium ) where they can actually use the Nitrate to grow.
John
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07-17-2004, 04:24 PM
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| | 3reef Moderator
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| Re: understanding the tank cycle
Oh! Sorry, I also meant to say that water changes are certainly one way of reducing Nitrates too :-)
John |
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07-17-2004, 05:11 PM
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| | Flamingo Tongue
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| Re: understanding the tank cycle what are some examples of macroalgae? |
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07-17-2004, 10:21 PM
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| | Giant Squid
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| Re: understanding the tank cycle Great job Fletch and John O. _________ Just tryin to recreate God's perfection in a glass bowl. 20 Gallon Reef W/Live Rock, mated pair of Maroon Clowns, Softies, 110 watts PC 10,000k lighting, and skimmer. |
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07-17-2004, 11:06 PM
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| | Flamingo Tongue
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| Re: understanding the tank cycle sweet, ok, I figured that what fletch said was correct, always nice to have another backer.
Thanks for the help on the entry level questions. I'm willing to invest on the hobby but I want to do it correct the first time. Information is my friend |
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07-20-2004, 03:25 AM
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| | Pajama Cardinal
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  | Re: understanding the tank cycle patience and time will also be your friend _________ karla  75 gall, 80 lbs sand, 110 lb lr, 10k pcs, atinics, emperor 400, prizm skimmer, hagen and maxi jet powerheads |
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