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02-27-2008, 05:13 PM
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| | Plankton
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rochester, New York
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| Tap water As I've been reading around the net and figuring out what's wrong and what's right. I've been seeing a lot about R/O water and how to go about obtaining such equipment to have resulting clean water. What I was wondering is if one could go about use straight tap water and treat it with water conditioner that eliminates chlorine and chloramine (for example, Kordon NovAqua+). I've been looking at prices for R/O units and they kind of run out of my range. Any other water purifying ideas?
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Equipment: 29G tank/AquaC Remora Skimmer/ Whisper 30 Filter (running Phosban)/ 100W Heater/4x36W T5HO lights 2x 10,000K daylights, 2x 460nm actinics/Hydor Koralia 1 PH Livestock: 1 six-line wrasse, 1 percula clownfish, 1 yellow tang (temp), Skunk cleaner shrimp, various hermits |
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02-27-2008, 05:17 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Miami Age: 39
Posts: 3,766
| Yes you can, but I dont recommend it, its not the same. Try this place for R/O units. purewaterclub*com _________ 9YR OLD 90G 30G w/d Mag18 150G skimmer 692w MH,yel&kole tang,foxface,midas&convict blenny,B&G chromies,Blk/yel fin chromie blackcap,nemo,neon goby,6line; Blastomussa Merleti,Acan ,BUBBLE,Torch,LTA, Goniopora(2), Acropora(2),Brain, Moon, assort zoas, yel& G star polyps, R&G open brain, P&B ricordia, montiporas, cup&candy corals, enias,B/G mush,flower ane(2), cherry red mussa, dusters,cleaning crew |
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02-27-2008, 06:07 PM
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#3 (permalink)
| | Plankton
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rochester, New York
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| thanks, i appreciate it!  |
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02-27-2008, 06:31 PM
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| | Bubble Tip Anemone
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: South Florida
Posts: 676
| I think in this hobby if you can't afford some basic necessities, it might be best to wait it out until you can. This might not be the pasttime to start on a shoestring budget. If you skimp in the beginning, oftentimes you'll be paying for it later by being forced into buying what you should have in the first place.
Here's a basic example. Say for instance you invest in great lighting, but you don't get an RO/DI setup. Instead you decide to use water conditioner that's $10 a bottle at say, two bottles a month. Ammonia, nitrite and chloramines are no issue, just as the product promises. However phosphates from your tapwater aren't removed by this product, and lo and behold, after about six months you develop a tremendous hair algae problem.
You read around and out of desperation you purchase 30 snails for $60 bucks. Then you hear that there's this miracle liquid out there that will solve the problem for about $40 in treatments. There went $160 bucks that could've gone towards that RO/DI setup.
A phos reactor and really good protein skimmer can be $40 and $400 respectively. A decent RO/DI setup can be had for $169 if you shop around. If you purchase these three things in the very beginning, you're guaranteed an easier go at it. Another plus is the wonderful lack of expensive fires that require immediate extinguishing.
Patience is the key here, if you can scrape up some funds over time and THEN start this whole ball rolling, you'll be glad you did.
Good luck, ermano!  
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90G. Kent Phos Reactor running carbon and PhosBan, Coral Life 225 Skimmer, Typhoon 5 Stage RO/DI, 20 Gal Sump/Refugium with Chaetomorpha lit opposite daylight cycle. Coralife 2x150MH+2x96W PC Actinics, Ecotech Vortech propeller pump, Hydor Koralia #3. |
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02-27-2008, 06:40 PM
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| | Gigas Clam
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, Indiana Age: 23
Posts: 856
| diddo on what reefsparky said!!! _________ 55 gallon slowly growing reef aquarium, 85 lbs. live rock, 2 1/2" sandbed, 1 False Percula Clown, 1 Sixline Wrasse, Tetratec PF500 filter, 2 110 watt URI Super Actinic VHO actinics, 2 250 watt metal halides with Reef Optix 2 reflectors powered by Blue Wave 3 ballast, born 1/3/08 My Tank Thread My Tank Video |
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02-27-2008, 06:50 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Elizabethtown, IN Age: 40
Posts: 3,052
| +3 on what Reefskarky said. Short and sweet and to the point. This is not a hobby to cut corners on, it will only give you trouble later on. _________ Scott 265g (Peninsula)
3x400w MH's, 4x95w Actinics, AAT Lunar Lights, OM 4-way CL, PM Bullet 3 Skimmer, DelZone Eclipse 1 O3 Generator, WavySea Plus for return, AAT Kalk Reactor, KNOP Ca Reactor w/PM Second Chamber, TradeWinds Chiller, ACIII Controller, Oceanus ATO, PM PO4 Reactor, 75g Sump, 30g Fuge Born March 5, 2007 My 265 Gal. Tank Thread " REAL TIME TANK STATS "  |
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02-27-2008, 07:26 PM
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| | Fire Worm
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North Carolina Age: 38
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  | I used tap water for more than 6 months...huge mistake. Tons of algae, problems with Ich, fish dieing. Don't do it. Spend the $80.00 or so and get the RO/DI filter lunatik recommended. I bought one a week ago and it works great.
It's making water right now in my garage as I am typing this.
Invest in good lighting too, another big mistake I made. Here's an article I wrote on my blog that talks about the 6 essential items you need to be successful in saltwater. Without these, you'll have problems.
Good luck! If you have questions on the RO/DI filter, feel free to PM me. _________ Tank: 75g glass, AquaC Remora, Eheim Ecco Canister filter, Odyssea (2x250W MH, 4x65W actinics, 6 LEDs), 80lbs of live rock Critters: 2 false percula clowns, blue damsel, lawnmower blenny, squirrel fish, 2 anthias, flame hawkfish, copper banded butterfly, coral banded shrimp, cleaner shrimp, fighting conch, condy anemone, and lots of misc snails Corals: Green stripe mushrooms, blue mushrooms, candy cane, frogspawn, Green Zoanthids, star polyps, acropora, monipora
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02-27-2008, 08:08 PM
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#8 (permalink)
| | Plankton
Join Date: Feb 2008
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| It depends on the tap water. Some areas have really clean tap, and some people have yellow tap. |
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02-27-2008, 08:27 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Dayton, Ohio
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| If nothing else, buy the TDS meter that purewaterclub sells (the ebay store that luna mentioned). It will either convince you to buy one of their inexpensive RO/DI units or to use your tap water. And cost less than $15 shipped.
Where I live, our county touts the cleanest of tap waters, which by tasting it compared to others when traveling, I agree. Though, when I was topping off my tank (granted it was still quite young <2 months), it resulted in an incredible diatom blume. Just something to consider. |
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02-27-2008, 08:50 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Jan 2008
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| I would first test your Tap water for: Phosphates, silicates, TDS, nitrates (macro nutrients of algae) before you decide to invest on an RO... it may not be worth the cash. |
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