Silly fragging question?

whippy · 07-02-2009, 05:23 PM

One of my buddies says that he frags his zoas right in the DT

I would think that this would kill his livestock, right?? I mean I know palytoxin is pretty nasty stuff. What do you guys say?

jakeh24 · 07-02-2009, 05:25 PM

when i have fragged anything its in a small container then i dump the water and wash the container really well
i wouldn't risk cutting zoas in your tank

whippy · 07-02-2009, 05:32 PM

That's what I said to him........hope nothing goes awry!!

So now, my zoas are on a large piece of rock. What do you guys suggest I do for this. Should I remove the entire rock to frag the zoas? The rock has to be about 15lbs, LMAO!!

PackLeader · 07-02-2009, 05:36 PM

I would remove it if you can. I honestly do not cut zoas fragging any more period, its too much of a PITA.
You can get the whole rock out, set it down, and give it a few whacks with a chisel and hammer to break into smaller pieces, then your done! If you can plan it too, you can also just place other smaller rocks around them, When they grow onto those rocks, tear them out and, again, done!

jakeh24 · 07-02-2009, 05:37 PM

put some rocks next to where the zoas are growing and they should grow onto the rock if they are about the same level

edit: aww he beat me to it

whippy · 07-02-2009, 05:46 PM

Tear what out?? I'm just worried about pulling the connective tissue.

Screwtape · 07-06-2009, 07:08 PM

Just to clarify, not every palythoa or zoanthid (or other related genuses) carries palytoxin, at least not in dangerous amounts. There may be other things they secrete when they're cut that you may not want in your tank but it's not necessarily palytoxin.

To me its not worth the risk of anything leaking out of any fresh-cut coral, I would always do it outside the tank and rinse it well in tank water after before putting it back in.

07-02-2009, 05:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
whippy Zoanthid Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woodbridge, VA Age: 25 Posts: 1,139 Skin: Dark Karma: 16802	Silly fragging question? One of my buddies says that he frags his zoas right in the DT I would think that this would kill his livestock, right?? I mean I know palytoxin is pretty nasty stuff. What do you guys say?

07-02-2009, 05:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
jakeh24 Torch Coral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: reno, NV Age: 14 Posts: 1,183 Skin: Classic Karma: 8441	when i have fragged anything its in a small container then i dump the water and wash the container really well i wouldn't risk cutting zoas in your tank _________ 20H build ocellaris clownfish pair, strawberry pseudochromis, blue damsel 70w metal halide pendant, 10 gallon sump/fuge don't click this, seriously.

07-02-2009, 05:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
PackLeader Giant Squid Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Reno, NV Age: 27 Posts: 5,450 Skin: Mint Karma: 50921	I would remove it if you can. I honestly do not cut zoas fragging any more period, its too much of a PITA. You can get the whole rock out, set it down, and give it a few whacks with a chisel and hammer to break into smaller pieces, then your done! If you can plan it too, you can also just place other smaller rocks around them, When they grow onto those rocks, tear them out and, again, done! _________ Jason 200 gallon long reef: 55 gallon sump, 20 long fuge, 300+ pounds LR, 750W MH, 216W T5, ASM G4+ skimmer, reactors, wavemaker, etc Hippo tang, O clown pair, firefish, starry blenny, YT damsel, BJ trigger, Scopas tang, chromis. Too many corals and inverts to list. http://www.3reef.com/forums/show-off...-60554-19.html [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

07-02-2009, 05:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
whippy Zoanthid Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woodbridge, VA Age: 25 Posts: 1,139 Skin: Dark Karma: 16802	That's what I said to him........hope nothing goes awry!! So now, my zoas are on a large piece of rock. What do you guys suggest I do for this. Should I remove the entire rock to frag the zoas? The rock has to be about 15lbs, LMAO!!

07-02-2009, 05:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
jakeh24 Torch Coral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: reno, NV Age: 14 Posts: 1,183 Skin: Classic Karma: 8441	put some rocks next to where the zoas are growing and they should grow onto the rock if they are about the same level edit: aww he beat me to it

07-02-2009, 05:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
whippy Zoanthid Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Woodbridge, VA Age: 25 Posts: 1,139 Skin: Dark Karma: 16802	Tear what out?? I'm just worried about pulling the connective tissue.

07-06-2009, 07:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
Screwtape Panda Puffer Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,120 Skin: Mint Karma: 15229	Just to clarify, not every palythoa or zoanthid (or other related genuses) carries palytoxin, at least not in dangerous amounts. There may be other things they secrete when they're cut that you may not want in your tank but it's not necessarily palytoxin. To me its not worth the risk of anything leaking out of any fresh-cut coral, I would always do it outside the tank and rinse it well in tank water after before putting it back in.