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03-02-2008, 03:08 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Seattle
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| A question about Kelvin ratings Hello,
I'm in the process of building my first reef tank, and it looks like I found a great deal on a tank setup that includes an Odyssea all in one light fixture with a 175W metal halide and 2 65W PC bulbs. I'm buying this used off of craigslist and the guy who is selling it suggested that it's time to replace the MH bulb.
Soooo....I was cruising the web looking at replacement bulbs, it looks like aquatraders has 175W replacement bulbs in three flavors: 10,000K, 15,000K, and 20,000K. Marine depot also has a number of 175W MH bulbs, including 5500K, 6500K, 12,000K, and 14,000K
I understand that the 20K's are bluer and simulate sun shining through clouds (thanks for the sticky Geekdafied), and that the 10K is a more yellow light. But
I was wondering what the implications of these differences are. Are there certain corals that prefer one end of the temperature continuum over the other? Is it just a matter of aesthetics, i.e. I like my tank to look bluer etc. Is one K rating more favorable (or unfavorable) for algae growth? What are the benefits and trade offs here?
Thanks so much!
Last edited by Calawah; 03-02-2008 at 03:36 PM.
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03-03-2008, 04:02 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Elizabethtown, IN Age: 40
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| I use 14k and love the look they give. It really all depends on what you like to look at. _________ Scott 265g (Peninsula)
3x400w MH's, 4x95w Actinics, AAT Lunar Lights, OM 4-way CL, PM Bullet 3 Skimmer, DelZone Eclipse 1 O3 Generator, WavySea Plus for return, AAT Kalk Reactor, KNOP Ca Reactor w/PM Second Chamber, TradeWinds Chiller, ACIII Controller, Oceanus ATO, PM PO4 Reactor, 75g Sump, 30g Fuge Born March 5, 2007 My 265 Gal. Tank Thread " REAL TIME TANK STATS "  |
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03-03-2008, 04:27 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Meriden, Connecticut Age: 44
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| Corals tend to grow better and faster with bulbs associated with the higher end of the light spectrum. The zooxanthellae also benefits more from bluer light than light from the other end of the spectrum advocating more reds. The red end of the spectrum will also entice and spur nuisance microalgae growth more so which should be taken into consideration. Personally, I love the 14000k-20000k bulbs with my favorite being the 20000k! _________ 125gal.w/Mag9.5 return(dual megaflow)>Mag7 pump Aqua Cev180skimmer.Wave2k Hamilton Reefstar(2)250watthqi(mh)pend.a Yellow, Naso Tang Red Lip Blenny Percula Clown Demoiselles Niger Trigger F. Wrasses Ceriantharia Orn.Shrimp and Stars Hermits Queen Conch asst. snails> Stars Zoos shrooms Montipora Brains Gorgonians Favia Turbinaria(large+small polyp) Acropora Xenia Tridacna (CroceaMaximaSquamosa) Leathers <35+75gal.reef tank as well>
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03-04-2008, 01:28 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Seattle
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| Cool, thanks guys. I got the fixture last night, after some research- I think I'm going to replace all the bulbs and the MH ballast as well. |
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03-04-2008, 02:54 PM
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| | Corkscrew Tentacle Anemone
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Denver, Colorado Age: 24
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| I have used 10,000K and 20,000K. The 10,000K made my tank look very yellow which I didn't like at ALL. I will never use it again. I adore the 20,000K but have also heard very good things about 14,000K (never seen that one in action though...that I know of). _________ 125 Gal Reef. Born March 2002 FISH: Ocellaris Clown, Yellow Tang, Fairy Wrasse, Sand Star, Fuzzy Dwarf Lion, Mandarin Dragonette, Hippo Tang CORALS: Green Striped/Red/Purple Mushrooms, Green Star Polyps, Yellow Toadstool Leather, Bubble, Frogspawn, 2 Hammers, Yellow Polyps, Open Brain, Ridge Leather, Various Zoas, Button Polyps, Kenya Tree, Colt, Elephant Ear Mushroom, Clove Polyps, Torch, Purple Clam, Rose BTA |
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03-04-2008, 03:03 PM
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| | Panda Puffer
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Tatamy, PA Age: 15
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| i run a 14k bulb, well two to be exact, and couldnt wish it to be any other color! its the perfect mix of blue/white IMO. But then some like more blue or more white. Personal preference, and mine is the 14k _________ |
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03-04-2008, 09:36 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: TN Age: 31
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| It all depends on what your are trying to reproduce. 6500k which is basically sunlight is best for light loving corals cause they are found in shallow water when ther sunlight penetrates the most, but it tends to turn the corals back to their natural colors of yellow/brown/green typically. The deeper the water, the bluer it gets.
You use a good 10,000K with supplemental actinics and get great growth. If you're not using actinics, then go with 14,000K-20,000K. For the most, it comes down to personal preference. We think we have a little part of the ocean in our tank when infact we have nothing anywhere close to it. Most of the corals we have, with some exceptions, come from 10-20 meters down where the water is really blue. So its basically whatever you want your tank to look like. I personally use 10,000Ks and actinics on grow out systems and 14,000Ks without actinics on other ones. _________ Got Questions? Need Answers? "Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it." Andre Gide  |
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03-04-2008, 10:33 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Minot, AFB Age: 25
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| I have been doing a great deal of reading about this subject lately and from what I've read the 14K Phoenix bulb is a clear favorite. The reason behind this is that it gives what appears to be the blues of a 20K bulb but the lower spectrum that corals like. So both owner and corals are pleased. _________ 55 gal All-glass 760w MH
Remora Pro HOB skimmer
Rena 55 Smart Filter & Heater Combo 3 Zebra Dart Fish, 3 Yellow-Blue Damsels 3 Skunk shrimp, 1 Blue Neon Goby 1 Sailfin
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03-04-2008, 11:38 PM
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| | Vlamingii Tang
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: joliet,il Age: 41
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| with regards to light, corals grow with a specific PAR. the only way to make sure the corals are getting the correct amount of "light" is with a meter. K values change the corals pigments by means of fluorescent coloration. also, different types of ballasts with different types of k bulbs produce different results. the element of pleasing the eye is more of a concern to people than what it takes to establish the correct amount of light dependent upon the coral genus.
heres a site, to make things a little easier. Advanced Aquarist's Online Magazine - Lateral Lines: Classification and Terminology For Reef Aquarium Lighting
look at table 2
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03-05-2008, 03:25 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Miami, FL Age: 39
Posts: 4,545
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Originally Posted by Brandon1023 I have used 10,000K and 20,000K. The 10,000K made my tank look very yellow which I didn't like at ALL. I will never use it again. I adore the 20,000K but have also heard very good things about 14,000K (never seen that one in action though...that I know of). | I have used all three and I agree with you about the 10k, too yellowish. I also think the 20k is too blueish, this bulb is for someone who doesnt have actinics(IMO). The 14k IMO, is the right choice, at least for me. It has the perfect blend of white and blue colors. Having said this, every comp. makes there bulbs differently with aspects to the K-rating. I have seen 10k, 12k,14k,15k, and 20k. Some 14k look like 20k and so on. Find one that you like, and stick with it. _________ 9YR OLD 90G/55g custom sump/refug Mag18 Aquac 180skimmer 692w MH AC jr,yel&kole tang,midas&convict blenny,B&G chromies,Blk/yel fin chromie blackcap,nemo,neon goby,6line; Blastomussa Merleti,Acan ,BUBBLE,Torch,LTA, Acropora(2) Moon, assort zoas, yel& G star polyps, P&B ricordia, montiporas, cup&candy corals, xenias,B/G mush,flower ane(2), cherry red mussa, dusters,cleaning crew.. |
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