new tank NO experience!

[OldandNew]

LOL!!!!!!!! Volitans are great. You put the food in the water and they sort of slowly swoop. It is not a stalk, just this real smooth move, then stop about 2 inches away from the target. As the bait fish (I bought my fish food at the local tackle shop) shuddered from the saltwater shock, all of a sudden the lionfish would open its mouth and swish, the bait was lionfish sushi.

I kept mine (about 4 inches) with a 4 inch trigger and an anemone in a 29 gal tank, and they were all happy campers. However, they did not have the live rock and such then, and that takes up space. The same would be much happier in a 55 gal with bunches of LR. The LR would give the Crusty Critters a place to hide from the trigger.

Cheers,
Ray

[OoNickoC]

[quote author=nurse1 link=board=Newbie;num=1101582022;start=0#7 date=12/08/04 at 22:34:56]Thank you for your responses. OOOhhh I feel so dumb! *I absolutely LOVE my lionfish, he is a volitans. I have done some research and I am now looking into a larger tank! I have been looking at a 90 gallon wave tank, any suggestions? The pet store says for about $1100 that tank would be good to go, do I have to spend that much? As for my profile I don't know what to say except that I have a nano cube with live rocks, live sand and alot of creatures!(pics enclosed) The pics were taken about 2 weeks ago and there has been alot of growth since then. There is also a crab that hides most of the time and 2 snails and a bunch of little crabs in shells. The lionfish is doing well for now but he is growing fast! He loves to eat shrimp and goldfish. This is what the pet store said to feed but everywhere else I look it says not to continue with that diet for long, it says I should wean him to dead food, must I do this? I live in south Florida and live food isn't hard to get. I am also reading that he should be fed 2-3 times per week, he is constantly begging for food and I usually give him a fish in the am and some shrimp at dinner time, is this to much? I have also noticed that I have quite a few empty shells in the sand, is my lionfish eating the crabs?[/quote]
[quote author=nurse1 link=board=Newbie;num=1101582022;start=0#7 date=12/08/04 at 22:34:56]Thank you for your responses. OOOhhh I feel so dumb! I absolutely LOVE my lionfish, he is a volitans. I have done some research and I am now looking into a larger tank! I have been looking at a 90 gallon wave tank, any suggestions? The pet store says for about $1100 that tank would be good to go, do I have to spend that much? As for my profile I don't know what to say except that I have a nano cube with live rocks, live sand and alot of creatures!(pics enclosed) The pics were taken about 2 weeks ago and there has been alot of growth since then. There is also a crab that hides most of the time and 2 snails and a bunch of little crabs in shells. The lionfish is doing well for now but he is growing fast! He loves to eat shrimp and goldfish. This is what the pet store said to feed but everywhere else I look it says not to continue with that diet for long, it says I should wean him to dead food, must I do this? I live in south Florida and live food isn't hard to get. I am also reading that he should be fed 2-3 times per week, he is constantly begging for food and I usually give him a fish in the am and some shrimp at dinner time, is this to much? I have also noticed that I have quite a few empty shells in the sand, is my lionfish eating the crabs?[/quote]

Lions feed mainly on iverts in the wild (crabs, shrimp, ect.) so he is prob. the one leaving empty shells.....and you are feeding too much.....the lion wont digest all of the parts of the live critters. so you get alot of excess waste....the cube will crach quick if you continue to feed live food. I learned that one personally with a 12 gallon tank and a baby lion. it may be hard to restrain yourselfm, but if your lion does good i would not add anything else to the tank, cubes seem to have severe one fish syndrome.

[reiple]

hmmmm...... I want my lion now! LOL!!!!! I'm waiting for some good dwarf specimen soon. Can I put a pair in a 60 gallon (sadly emptied of fish!)?

[MacnReef]

OMG...am I reading this. I can't even read the responses so I am just going to post. A LIONFISH in a nanocube and you are asking about a seahorse...I am hoping this is a joke and I didn't get it.

A lionfish needs a lot of food, hence major waste. With a tank of that size you can not provide enough mechanical or biological filtration for that fish, not to mention putting that fish in a 12g tank! Then you ask about a seahorse...dude you need to read. Stop watching finding nemo and pick up a book...

A seahorse is very hard to keep in any tank with other fish because they are such slow feeders that usually their food is consumed before they make it to it. Plus a lionfish would probably mutilate the seahorse. Sorry to sound so harsh but this is crazy!

Mike

[JohnO]

[quote author=MacnReef link=board=Newbie;num=1101582022;start=0#13 date=12/16/04 at 12:48:30]OMG...am I reading this. *I can't even read the responses so I am just going to post. *
Mike[/quote]

Pity, it would have saved you a lot of time :-)

John

[MacnReef]

Thanx! lol

[OoNickoC]

[quote author=MacnReef link=board=Newbie;num=1101582022;start=0#13 date=12/16/04 at 12:48:30]OMG...am I reading this. *I can't even read the responses so I am just going to post. *A LIONFISH in a nanocube and you are asking about a seahorse...I am hoping this is a joke and I didn't get it.

A lionfish needs a lot of food, hence major waste. *With a tank of that size you can not provide enough mechanical or biological filtration for that fish, not to mention putting that fish in a 12g tank! *Then you ask about a seahorse...dude you need to read. *Stop watching finding nemo and pick up a book...

A seahorse is very hard to keep in any tank with other fish because they are such slow feeders that usually their food is consumed before they make it to it. *Plus a lionfish would probably mutilate the seahorse. *Sorry to sound so harsh but this is crazy!

Mike[/quote]

Seems like You havent read or had ANY experience with nano-systems. Ive set people up with dwarf fuzzies in cubes (nano)...theres more filtration in a stock nano cube that A FLUVAL 204 (3 sponge filters that are about 5x3x3....carbon bag the size of a fluval 304's, and the same amount of bio-media (i usualy stick more carbon or spong)!!! I think you should read...not to be offensive or anything .....also when you add LR and LS there is more than enought filtration for a small lion as they DONT eat alot, illinformed or inexperiened aquarists feed them too much. As for Sea horses.....any book specifically on them will tell you that it ios best to stock them in 3,5,or ten gallon tanks and in small0-large groups due to the volume of minute foods you must introduce. Had an eclipse three on display at work with a group of 5 dwarfs and they spawned regularly until they were purchased with the system, they live to this day(2 years later). ?The combo though.....i agree wioth you, laughable! But one ore the others are very possible with experience or care....not for newbies.

[MacnReef]

You know what...not going to go there. Just so you know...I have a LOT of experience with nanos.

IMO, lionfish should be kept in larger aquariums where they can be feed properly and have the room required.

Have a good day!

Mike

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