frogspawn

nemo79 · 10-20-2006, 03:56 PM

where is the best placement for these. do they like being amongst rockwork or out of the substrate?

amcarrig · 10-20-2006, 06:01 PM

They can be placed anywhere as long as they receive med/high light and medium/high water flow. Take care to make sure that wherever you place it, the flesh of the coral isn't rubbing against rock or sand, which will irritate it.

coral reefer · 10-20-2006, 07:15 PM

Euphylia(frogspawn) are LPS and require less light than their cousins (SPS) and require a moderate waterflow to help bring nutrients and remove detritus and Co2 from them.
Be careful of placement of your Frogspawn as they possess quite a potent neurotoxin which will injure and possibly kill neighboring corals. Also, make sure that you place the coral in a position so that it can't fall and land on other corals or possibly injure itself by landing on a rock.

jtReef · 10-20-2006, 08:42 PM

also be carefull when handling them. one of the types i have leave my arm in a rash simular to poisen ivey

nemo79 · 10-21-2006, 03:32 PM

wow, thanks for all the info. I have it in the substrate standing up, it's in a low/mod flow level and about 3 inches from my rics...is this too close? I don't want to lose my rics. It must love where it is because I just got the frogspawn last night and it is allready fully open and swaying in the current. They are truly addictive to watch, now I have to get a bubble coral and xenia. I know the xenia is safe to mix with my corals but what about a bubble?

inwall75 · 10-21-2006, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jtReef

also be carefull when handling them. one of the types i have leave my arm in a rash simular to poisen ivey

Whoa Nelly!!!

I'm going to put up a post from a nurse about this as I experienced the same thing.

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The information about the development of allergies is correct- allergic reactions don't happen the first time someone is exposed to the allergen- it takes multiple exposures for your body to develop histamines against the allergen (histamines cause allergic symptoms), and the more times you are exposed to a possible irritant, the worse your reaction could get. So.... always use gloves! Just because something didn't bother you the first few times you touched it, doesn't mean it never will!

DISCLOSURE: The bold in the above quote was not from her. I bolded it to show that it doesn't always happen that way for everyone.

It did happen that way for me though. At first, in my softy tank I had no problems. Then I started getting some minor irritation. Eventually, it got worse and worse and worse. I would recommend that you start wearing gloves to be on the safe side. I've witnessed this same reaction with another one of my hobbies. I've been stung by bees more than most people because one of my hobbies is riding horses in the Ozark Mountains. The stings started affecting me more. The last time I got stung, I went into anaphylactic shock and my throat closed up, I couldn't breathe, and could have died. Now I have to carry an Epi-Pen whenever I'm around a lot of flowers, in the woods, etc.

jtReef · 10-21-2006, 04:08 PM

nemo that may be to close. The frogspawn will grow over time and it can drastically change in shape depending on currents and food. They also can develop stinging tentacles which can reach out and sting the ricordia. The ricordia may be able to grow back so be careful. Just look for white bleaching on the recordia and you will know what has happened.

nemo79 · 10-21-2006, 04:19 PM

thanks jt, I was thinking the same thing, thank god I didn't glue the rics rock down because they are either going to be moved or I will move the frogspawn farther away as there is plenty of room to move it over a few inches.

coral reefer · 10-21-2006, 08:27 PM

As for the Bubble coral, you have to be careful for three main reasons:
First: they have very long sweeper tentacles up to 4-6 inches in most cases, so because of this you have to use caution in placing it so as not to endanger neighboring corals!
second: They are considered a meaty coral(ie. brains and the like) therefore care must be taken with regards to shipping/ placement in your tank and transferring it from bag to tank. You run the risk of injuring it, due to tissue tear due to the weight of its tissue.
Third: Bubbles tend to develop brown jelly infection as well as mentioned above(tissue removing from the base-calcareous skeleton).
Xenia on the other hand is a hit or miss...it is either thriving or dead. It ships poorly and doesn't like warm temps(above 85 degrees). Once you get it established in your tank it will grow pretty quickly and spread like a weed. With that in mind, placement will become a critical factor in the lives of some corals as well as the overgrowth of Xenia in your tank. You see, many Xenia sp. are in the most toxic category up their with sinularia and many Sarcophyton species and Gorgonians. With this in mind it will benefit you and other corals by trying to keep the growth under control and away from other corals to be on the safe side. If for no other reason at all keep xenia away from other light demanding corals to avoid Xenia blocking the light to your more light requiring corals!
Hope this helps you...Not to scare you as I love xenia and have three different types. I just have it strategically placed within my tanks.

sssnake · 10-22-2006, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by amcarrig

They can be placed anywhere as long as they receive med/high light and medium/high water flow. Take care to make sure that wherever you place it, the flesh of the coral isn't rubbing against rock or sand, which will irritate it.

+1

Just make sure wherever you place it you maintain at least a 6 inch radius around the frogspawn with no other corals in proximity.

By the way.....frogspawn grows like crazy when happy.