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12-16-2004, 02:28 PM
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| | Gigas Clam
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Carpentersville, IL Age: 52
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|  Walt Smith Live Rock
Hi,
I need to load up on live rock for my new 210. That's a lot of rock and a lot of $. I'm thinking about starting with 200lb. The local stores run from $4-6 per pound. Ocean Pro on E-Bay has delivered cured Walt Smith rock for around $3 per pound. They claim to have a 110% guarantee.
Has anyone delt with them? Any comments? Also, with a 4+" bed I'm planning to sink the rock to the glass for stability. That is a lot of wasted rock. Has anyone used a lower cost base of some sort? I was even thinking about bricks, which has to be a bad idea.
Thanks,
Bruce
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12-16-2004, 02:43 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Marina del Rey, California
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| Re: Walt Smith Live Rock
Base rock is the way to go for the first layer and then LR on top of that. No experience with Walt Smith!. _________ Just tryin to recreate God's perfection in a glass bowl. 20 Gallon Reef W/Live Rock, mated pair of Maroon Clowns, Softies, 110 watts PC 10,000k lighting, and skimmer.  | |
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12-16-2004, 03:47 PM
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| | Whip-Lash Squid
Join Date: May 2004 Location: PhillySuburbs, Pennsylvania Age: 42
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| Re: Walt Smith Live Rock
Hirocks.com
I was going to order here, but ended up getting a torn down system local for less..... _________  I Love My Sig By John Hawkins!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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12-17-2004, 01:10 AM
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| | Spanish Shawl Nudibranch
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jakarta,
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| Re: Walt Smith Live Rock
Check out GARF.org
They have a "grow your own" live rock process that is budget friendly and appears to work.
The only change I would do to their program is I would do the DSB vice the plenum.
As for supporting the rock, you might consider 3 inch long rounds cut from 3 inch pvc pipe placed within the DSB and under where you plan on placing the rock. Place the rounds, fill with three inches of sand, place the rock, then fill with the rest of the sand. You might consider making the rounds rough on the bottom ends and maybe drilling some holes in them to encourage water flow through them.
Just a thought.
Cheers,
Ray
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12-17-2004, 05:07 AM
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| | Gigas Clam
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Carpentersville, IL Age: 52
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| Re: Walt Smith Live Rock
[quote author=birdlady link=board=General;num=1103246890;start=0#2 date=12/16/04 at 18:47:40]Hirocks.com
I was going to order here, but ended up getting a torn down system local *for less.....[/quote]
Good price on delivered base rock. I bought 60 pounds of their best. I'll post up with an opinion upon delivery.
Thanks,
Bruce | |
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12-17-2004, 06:25 AM
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| | Whip-Lash Squid
Join Date: May 2004 Location: PhillySuburbs, Pennsylvania Age: 42
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| Re: Walt Smith Live Rock
Cool! The PVC tubes is a good idea as well. Then you don't have as much dead space around each rock. | |
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12-17-2004, 12:24 PM
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| | Gigas Clam
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Carpentersville, IL Age: 52
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| Re: Walt Smith Live Rock
I was thinking about that too. Plus if done right could help with the anaerobic denitrification.
Ray, thanks for the link. Right now, I'm too lazy and it's too cold in Chicago. I'll never get it done.
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12-21-2004, 05:54 AM
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| | Gigas Clam
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Carpentersville, IL Age: 52
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| Re: Walt Smith Live Rock
Birdlady,
I don't know if it is a problem, but as of today I have not recieved any acknowledgement of my payment or an ETA on the rock. As of right now be careful of Hirocks. | |
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12-21-2004, 06:42 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Marina del Rey, California
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| Re: Walt Smith Live Rock
I hope it's a simple mix-up BR. Do you have a customer service or tracking number? | |
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12-21-2004, 07:39 AM
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| | Gigas Clam
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Carpentersville, IL Age: 52
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| Re: Walt Smith Live Rock
Their ears must have been burning. I just got a reply to my email with a UPS tracking number. It shipped on Monday. I ordered it late Friday and it was pickup scanned Monday around 2. Discounting the weekend that's fast! Now I have to wait out UPS ground from CA. With the holiday it will probably be next week. | |
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