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05-13-2008, 01:11 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: May 2007 Location: NC Age: 42
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 |  Liquid Nail
Does anyone see a problem with using Liquid Nail to cement dead base rock togeother to build a base for my reef. I have about 90 lbs. of dead dry base rock that I would like to attach togeother to form the reef base, and save money from buying LR. _________  90 gal AGA,main,, 40,gal, sump/refug,aqua ev 120 skimmer, mag-5 pumps x2,, hydor koralia 3 circulations pumps x2,, sunpod 300w MH,, current extreme T5 14,000+super actinic 460,, 110 lb. DSB, 100 lbs. LR | 
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05-13-2008, 01:25 PM
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| | 3reef Moderator |
Yes it is likely to leach toxins into the water over time.
I have heard of using 2 part epoxy.
What also works well is drilling the rock and either zap strapping it together or gluing small acrylic rods to hold it together
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05-13-2008, 01:34 PM
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| | Purple Spiny Lobster
Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Weston, Florida Age: 28
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Yes, it will definitely leak toxins and it's not made for under water use at all. Try CorAffix made especially for this. you'd just have to buy quite a bit.  CorAffix Cyanoacrylate Adhesives | Propagation Tools | Aquarium - ThatPetPlace.com _________ 75gal hex, 2-40w T12 48", odyssea 48" 4x65w PC's w/ lunars, 50lbs LR, 80lbs LS, gold banded maroon clown, dog faced puffer, juvenile blue angel, 2 dominoes, 1-4 stripe damsel, yellow watchman gobie, lawnmower blenny, mano, purple chromis, mexican turbo, astrea and red foot snails, striped, red and blue legged hermit crabs, coral banded shrimp, white and purple bubble coral(very little), red and green mushrooms, orange gorgonian  Tanks, No Thanks. We Free Dive! | |
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05-13-2008, 02:20 PM
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| | 3reef Sponsor
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Last fancy wall I was asked to build I used simple old cement/mortar Just usea agranoite sand to mixit. or not I prefere the better sand , Then Just work like a mason uses to set bricks ..Just allow it to cure up while cycling the tank.. takes about 6 weeks . I have also used fibeglass resin.. the two part stuff that is applied over the matting for different repairs . _________ Some of the world's greatest feats were accomplished by people not smart enough to know they were impossible (Doug Larson) | 
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05-21-2008, 12:13 PM
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| | Plankton
Join Date: May 2008
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Originally Posted by Tangster  Last fancy wall I was asked to build I used simple old cement/mortar Just usea agranoite sand to mixit. or not I prefere the better sand , Then Just work like a mason uses to set bricks ..Just allow it to cure up while cycling the tank.. takes about 6 weeks . I have also used fibeglass resin.. the two part stuff that is applied over the matting for different repairs . |
fiberglass resin you can buy at home depot or lowes? used for I guess, mainly boat repair?
No toxins with that? | |
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05-21-2008, 12:44 PM
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| | 3reef Sponsor
Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Va/Ct
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Nope it Its totaly safe ever been to a public aquarium ? Those are not real rock wall just fiberglass . It was many time when we used to build wooden tanks..We'd line the inside with the fiberglass to water proof the wood . | |
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05-21-2008, 12:52 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: TN Age: 31
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Thorite is what I prefer. It has a 6hr cure time and its reef safe when cured. Thats what reef rebuilders use. _________ Got Questions? Need Answers?
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05-21-2008, 12:53 PM
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| | Gigas Clam
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Louisville, KY ( derby town ) Age: 39
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You ahould allow for a total cure time when useing fiberglass.
If you ever thought of this and NO cure/wait time , try taking the rock and drilling it with a hole ,(depending on how large the rock) insert a piece of PVC/tubing say half inch ?
drill the corasponding one (sitting atop it , drill it on the bottom ) .
Ive actually seen where a person actually stacked LR one atop the other like 6/7 pices , he juse chose a solid base rock and drilled thrue it , stuck the half inch pipe in then continued to drill right thrue each rock (stacking one atop the other ) atop the other
till he reached his desired height. _________ Wildreefs 220 Tank Journal
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05-21-2008, 01:24 PM
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| | Clown Trigger
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Tatamy, PA Age: 15
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Hey tangster, whats that stuff that can be bought at home depot and is an epoxy stick. Is it Oakley? Was gonna get some but wasnt sure. The case looks really similar to that as an aquastik....... _________  | |
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05-21-2008, 01:58 PM
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| | 3reef Sponsor
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Originally Posted by aquaboy Hey tangster, whats that stuff that can be bought at home depot and is an epoxy stick. Is it Oakley? Was gonna get some but wasnt sure. The case looks really similar to that as an aquastik....... | There are two types I have posted about the one you want will say for plastic Pipe ABS PVC and CPVC or words to that effect The other will mention Iron and steel thats not the one.. I know many doubt that anything could be used unless its inflated 1000% and says fish on it some where .. But thats what I use to epoxy my plug with. 4.99 or so opposed to 15.99 for the fish stuff.. But it's totally safe (: | |
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