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04-04-2007, 08:06 PM
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| | Spaghetti Worm
Join Date: Mar 2007
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|  lights?
do i have to have lights while cycling or will my LR be ok? and without a protien skimmer should i do a 20% change regularly or just let it ride its cource for a week or 2? _________ 60 GAl w/ overflow:
aqua c urchin skimmer:
40 lbs sand with 40 lbs live sand
60 lbs L/R
Livestock: RIP 1 Clownfish 11 blue leg hermit crabs: Clibanarius tricolor 1 turbo snail: Turbo spp. 1 Pyramid top snail: Tectus spp. 2 Nerites: Nerita spp. 2 Aquarium fire worms: Eurythoe sp. many Micro brittle stars: Ophiactis spp.
1 Peppermint shrimp: Lysmata californica  | 
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04-04-2007, 09:58 PM
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| | Fire Worm
Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lincoln Nebraska and NEH Maine Age: 28
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Question? 
Is this your fist cycle?
Do you have any fish ?
Do you have any other live stock?
Do you have any established LR ( nice algae growth)?
Typically, if you only have LR it is fine without light for quite some time….
Let us (or the real pros ) know the details ...
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04-05-2007, 02:12 AM
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| | 3reef Sponsor
Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Va/Ct
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I never run lights until about the 8th week then its only the actinic's and as for a skimmer I never add one until about 5 to 6 months nothing to skim really and not enough bio load for the needed 0'2 and the skimmer will remove the coralline spores also.. maybe thats why we never have an issue growing Coraline's and I really won't start to stock a reef until I see them taking hold. And never do any water changing it will disrupt the cycling process _________ Some of the world's greatest feats were accomplished by people not smart enough to know they were impossible (Doug Larson) | |
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04-05-2007, 11:56 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Meriden, Connecticut Age: 44
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Greg...You know my answer!!!! _________ 125gal.w/Mag9.5 return(dual megaflow)>Mag7 pump Aqua Cev180skimmer.Wave2k Hamilton Reefstar(2)250watthqi(mh)pend.a Yellow, Naso Tang Red Lip Blenny Percula Clown Demoiselles Niger Trigger F. Wrasses Ceriantharia Orn.Shrimp and Stars Hermits Queen Conch asst. snails> Stars Zoos shrooms Montipora Brains Gorgonians Favia Turbinaria(large+small polyp) Acropora Xenia Tridacna (CroceaMaximaSquamosa) Leathers <35+75gal.reef tank as well> 
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04-05-2007, 12:01 PM
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#5 (permalink)
| | Spaghetti Worm
Join Date: Mar 2007
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yes i do thanks tom..... oh and yes this will be my very first cycly ever  there is absolutly nothing in my tank but water which has been circulating for over a week and a half now | |
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04-05-2007, 12:05 PM
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#6 (permalink)
| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Meriden, Connecticut Age: 44
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Just do nothing and let nature take its course. No water changes and get the skimmer set up asap IMO...
You can get by with the cycling by just using the live rock!!! And you don't need light as the beneficial bacteria, actually is better off with no lighting. The only problem that you will encounter, is that if your rock has macro, sponge or coralline algae, it will die off in a weeks time! But you can grow it back . | |
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04-05-2007, 12:08 PM
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| | Zoanthid
Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ontario, canada
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I cycled my tank with only LR and the substrate, regular fluorescents, and a skimmer. I do believe some filteration should be running to remove the detritus that comes off the LR.
I had coraline developing a month after I started! I would never do a water change during cycling as it disrups the cycle and you start all over again. _________ 20g
25lbs LR
1 hydor koralia
rio nano skimmer FISH: blk/white clown, damsel, yellow watchman goby CORAL: grn open brain, acan, torch, rics, toadstool, zoo's
INVERT:[/u] hermits, nassarius, astrea, turbo's, nerites, crocea clam
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04-05-2007, 12:09 PM
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#8 (permalink)
| | Spaghetti Worm
Join Date: Mar 2007
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ok... i am buying my lights and skimmer not tomarrow but the following friday. so hopfully it wont all die before then... but i am pretty sure the benificial bacterias will stay and some of the algea will stay untill then if not ill get it back lol... and thanks again everyone for all the help and not getting irritated by my many questions....
thanks nemo: and i do have my filtration/sump running but will add skimmer come next week | |
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04-05-2007, 12:15 PM
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#9 (permalink)
| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Meriden, Connecticut Age: 44
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Not getting irritated, as long as it helps you and your livestock to thrive and be successful!
Ask as many questions as you need to because your livestock are in your hands and counting on you for their success...
I would read as much as you can in addition to asking questions here and/or on other sites as these references will help you out enormously IMO!!! | |
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04-05-2007, 08:25 PM
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#10 (permalink)
| | Zoanthid
Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ontario, canada
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It's not irritating. We're all here to share advice. I went through it, trying to cut corners and in the end I spent more $$$ by replacing it with something better. Have fun, don't rush it. Good luck. | |
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