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05-20-2008, 06:42 AM
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| | Flamingo Tongue
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central, FL
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| Sand cleaners What are the absolute best sand cleaners? I need some that keep the tops clean and burrowers that keep my DEEP sand bed clean? I was thinking about gobies but they are eart movers and heck on my rock display.......
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Established October 2006 120g acrylic, 2-250w MH, 4-65w actinic, saddle & tomatoe clowns, naso & yellow tang, cleaner shrimp, LT & carpet anemone, deresa & crocea clam, green bubble, white bubble, christmas tree worms, green star/blue clove/yellow polyps, asst. zoas, mushrooms, frogspawn, brain coral, ricordias, toadstool leather, colt |
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05-20-2008, 06:50 AM
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| | Gnarly Old Codfish
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Silverdale, Washington Age: 59
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| A sand sifting machine...never stops. Demonstrated no inclination to move rock...unlike my Coris Wrasse which is constantly trying to rearrange tank.
See: FOTM - Apr '08 - Brownbarred Goby (Amblygobius phalaena) Pics _________ AG "125," AquaC EV 180, 30 gal sump, "SCWD", 80 lbs LR, CoralSeaLife "Moonlite" Hood, PFO 250W HQI Mini-Pendant (SPS HQI 14000k bulb)
12 Gallon NanoCube - 24w stock PC 50/50 light "...nothing good ever happens fast in a reef tank, only bad things happen fast..."
- MIKE PALLETTA - (2008 Reef log) ("OmarD"/"Scott") |
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05-20-2008, 07:35 AM
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| | Coral Banded Shrimp
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Orlando,Fl.
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| a diamond goby is a great sand shifter.doesnt damage things and doesnt rearrange things.i love mine. |
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05-20-2008, 08:04 AM
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| | 3reef Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wethersfield, CT Age: 38
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| You don't want burrowing animals if you're using a deep sand bed. |
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05-20-2008, 08:17 AM
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| | Flamingo Tongue
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Central, FL
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Originally Posted by amcarrig You don't want burrowing animals if you're using a deep sand bed. | how come? don't they clean it......rid it of nasty stuff? |
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05-20-2008, 08:21 AM
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| | 3reef Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wethersfield, CT Age: 38
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Originally Posted by MagReef how come? don't they clean it......rid it of nasty stuff? | For a DSB to function properly, you can't expose the anaerobic bacteria to oxygen or you will kill the bacteria, rendering your DSB useless. |
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05-20-2008, 08:53 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: TN Age: 31
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| According to Shimek himself, deep sand beds are not to be disturbed. The Importance of Deep Sand. By Ronald L. Shimek
In the first paragraph under benefits he states "Benefits:
Hobbyists might think that sand beds have no place in a coral reef aquarium, particularly if they are trying to establish something resembling a natural coral reef. However, with some thought I am sure they would realize that most coral reefs are surrounded by sand area, and by constructing a sand bed in our aquariums we merely emulate nature. These beds provide three things. First, they provide a place for processing and exporting some dissolved nutrients. Second, they provide a place to recycle detritus, excess foods, animal feces and other particulate material into useable forms. Finally, they provide a food source for many reef animals. Let's look at each of these functions."
He left out the part about hurricanes, typhoons and other natural diseasters that turn the sand bed around reefs over. So in reality, if you wanna go with a deep sand bed because thats what nature has, you need to go in your tank about 4-5 times a year and turn everything over erattically to simulate a hurricane/typhoon. _________ Got Questions? Need Answers? "Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it." Andre Gide  |
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05-20-2008, 09:03 AM
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| | 3reef Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wethersfield, CT Age: 38
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Originally Posted by geekdafied He left out the part about hurricanes, typhoons and other natural diseasters that turn the sand bed around reefs over. So in reality, if you wanna go with a deep sand bed because thats what nature has, you need to go in your tank about 4-5 times a year and turn everything over erattically to simulate a hurricane/typhoon. | That would be a recipe for disaster as all of the methanes that are trapped in the sandbed would be released and KABOOM, you're out one fish tank and alot of critters. If we could "dilute" methanes and other elements in an aquarium as is done in the ocean, it would be a different story altogether |
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05-20-2008, 09:09 AM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: TN Age: 31
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| All it takes is for something to dig down into the sand in the right spot and there goes the tank.
IMO, a lot of these "experts" over think things and forget about minor details that can totall change the equation.
I forgot to mention how shimek doesnt even have a tank anymore... |
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05-20-2008, 04:47 PM
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#10 (permalink)
| | Giant Squid
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| Great info.... |
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