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11-02-2006, 10:08 AM
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| | Spanish Shawl Nudibranch
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Watervliet, Michigan Age: 37
Posts: 88
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| Astrea snails and Hermit crabs not compatible? Since I have introduced my snails and crabs together I have been loosing about a snail a week. The crabs will pick at them until they loose suction and once that occurs its all over for the snails. The crabs will clean em out and I am about ready to get rid of the crabs. Is there any crabs that wont do this to my snails?..I have to do something...I came home last night and my bf said he took out another dead snail while the crab was still trying to feed on it that he flushed it down the toilet...Funny but not funny...Any suggestions?
Thanks Q
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Tank Contents:
55 gal
30 lbs. LR
70 lbs. LS
1 BTA
2 ocellaris clowns
1 yellow tang
2 3 striped damsels
2 blue reef chromis
1 lawnmower blenny
Yellow polyps
Star polyps
3 hermit crabs
11 snails
*Also have a 12 gal nano cube tank
that houses 1 picasso trigger |
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11-02-2006, 10:19 AM
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| | Kole Tang
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St. Louis
Posts: 1,753
| Buy empty shells for the crabs to move into. Otherwise they will continue killing your snails. There's no guarantee that they still won't but the damage to your snail population should lessen. There are a lot of people who dislike crabs for this very reason. This is compounded by the fact that a lot of "clean-up crew" kits have way too many crabs in them. _________ Curt |
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11-02-2006, 10:58 AM
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| | Fire Shrimp
Join Date: May 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA
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| I agree with the empty shells comment. I have a few extra in my tank, which gives the crabs something to grow into. I lose about 3-4 snails a year now to the crabs. Not too bad. Also, I have noticed that the Mexican Turbos seem to hold their own much better then the astreas. Plus they seem to be better at self-righting when they turn over. I tend to lose the astreas when the fall off the glass and land on thier backs....If I don't flip them over...they are crab bait for sure. :-) |
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11-02-2006, 11:17 AM
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| | Spanish Shawl Nudibranch
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Watervliet, Michigan Age: 37
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| I will have to get some empty shells then to see what happens. I also think l will get a couple of those mexican turbo snails as well. Them crabs are really pissin me off. If all else fails I will ditch them and get some different crabs maybe, or are they all like that?
Q |
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11-02-2006, 11:26 AM
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| | Kole Tang
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St. Louis
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Originally Posted by QTYPIE424 If all else fails I will ditch them and get some different crabs maybe, or are they all like that?
Q | Red-legs tend to be slightly less aggressive but they really are all like that. They are opportunistic feeders and if they have the means and opportunity, snailicide is something most of them don't have a problem with. The larger they get, the worse they get. It's never a problem for me. Once they misbehave, into the mantis tank they go. |
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11-02-2006, 11:36 AM
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| | Spanish Shawl Nudibranch
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Watervliet, Michigan Age: 37
Posts: 88
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| hmmm....ya i was also thinkin of getting something to give them problems too but I want a nice peaceful tank since I have no other tank to punish them in right now. hehe |
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11-02-2006, 11:36 AM
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| | 3reef Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wethersfield, CT Age: 38
Posts: 6,241
|  The question is, does your mantis knowingly instigate any of the trouble that the hermits get into? |
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11-02-2006, 11:42 AM
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| | Kole Tang
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St. Louis
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| LOL...It's not really punishment. Any food whether frozen, freeze-dried, flake, etc. all revolve around a sea-creature that was killed. They were just killed by humans instead of an animal.
If I could sing like Elton John, I would be singing, "The Circle of Life" right now.
FWIW, my mantis are rarely fed live food. Some is necessary for their health and while I don't like to do it, I must. Heck, I transport poisonous spiders outside on pieces of paper when Rachel always wants me to squoosh them. |
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11-02-2006, 11:47 AM
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| | Kole Tang
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St. Louis
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Originally Posted by amcarrig  The question is, does your mantis knowingly instigate any of the trouble that the hermits get into?  |
LOL!!! |
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11-02-2006, 11:48 AM
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| | Spanish Shawl Nudibranch
Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Watervliet, Michigan Age: 37
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| Not sure what FWIW stands for but I understand what your saying and agree.
P.S. I run from spiders so go figure... |
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