Click Here!
Promote! | Advertise | View Sponsors | Top100
Welcome to 3reef.com, the friendly tropical fish forum community where reef aquarium enthusiasts from around the world come to discuss coral reef aquariums, saltwater fish, corals, inverts, protein skimmers, fish filters, aquarium lighting, refugiums, etc. Also freshwater fish information on tetras, goldfish, cichlids and more!

You are currently viewing 3reef.com as a guest which gives you limited access to view most tropical fish forum discussions, articles and photo galleries. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photo gallery and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact support.
Go Back   3reef Forums > Quickies > ID This!

Old 02-09-2008, 01:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
Spanish Shawl Nudibranch
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 86
Karma: 39
jasno999 is on a roll


 
Default Unknown- looks like starfish??? Help ID.

Unknown- looks like starfish??? Help ID.

Ok. SO My tank was in need of some cleaning today. I decided to do some pruning and re-aranging. I also dug down into soem sections of my sand bed to just get it agitated and ewhat not.

Well I am looking at the tank about an hour later and I see this white thing on the glass. I look closer and notice it is moving and it looks like the center section of a starfish. It looks like a starfish that hads all it's legs broken off and had basically a mouth left and a few small leg sections....

I have no freakign idea what it could be. I used to have a large brittle star in my tank but it dissapeared about 2 months ago and I figured it was dead. It was brown and huge. This thing is white and tiny....

Here are some pictures. Hopefully somebody can ID it.






jasno999 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reef Links
Click Here!
Old 02-09-2008, 04:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
Peppermint Shrimp
 
mandarin11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 415
Karma: 175
mandarin11 has a spectacular aura aboutmandarin11 has a spectacular aura about


 
Default

It looks like an asterina starfish.


_________

55gal,216 watt Tek T5, 45#LR, 45#LS, 3 maxi-jet 900's on a natural wavemaker timer,phosban reactor, 5 gal fuge (built out of standard 10 gallon tank) with chaeto and feather caulerpa, sealife systems protein skimmer, wet/dry, 3 blue/green chromi, 1 skunk cleaner shrimp, 1 coral beauty,1 scopas tang, 2 false percs, 5 mexican turbo snails, assorted dwarf blue leg hermits, astrea snails, and nerite snails
mandarin11 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 05:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
Gnarly Old Codfish
 
omard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Silverdale, Washington
Age: 59
Posts: 4,788
Blog Entries: 25
Karma: 4554
omard has a reputation beyond reputeomard has a reputation beyond reputeomard has a reputation beyond reputeomard has a reputation beyond reputeomard has a reputation beyond reputeomard has a reputation beyond reputeomard has a reputation beyond reputeomard has a reputation beyond reputeomard has a reputation beyond reputeomard has a reputation beyond reputeomard has a reputation beyond repute


 
 
 
Default

While the jury is still out on the danger of Asterina Starfish. Some varieties appear safe, some not.

I have finally decided the ones inhabiting my tank are the benign ones.

Only issue I have is keeping the population of them under control.

I must have pulled thousands of them from tank over years.

Usually do when siphoning water during water changes when they are easy to suck up off glass.

Literally hundreds overflows, which probably is a good thing.

They are great glass cleaners.

Here is pic of current "herd" hard at work eating algae off side of tank. No harm to coraline at all.


Close up,


Have decided to just live with them, keeping population under control so snails still have enough to eat.

For some reason they mostly like one side of tank more then anywhere else.

Lighting?

Who knows.

Note: Harlequin Shrimp Will Not Eat!



Asterina Wega












Nardoa and Asterina spp Sea Stars




There is some controversy over the Asterina species sea stars, which can multiply to great numbers in reef aquariums. Most aquarists report no problems with them, but some claim that they eat SPS corals and make every effort to remove them. There are more than one species of Asterina and it's speculated that some species may be harmful. It's also speculated that the Asterina sea stars will consume SPS corals once they reach a certain density. I happened to put a Nardoa species sea star into a small reef aquarium that contains a large population of Asterina sea stars. I discovered that the Nardoa sea star regularly consumed the Asterina sea stars. The Nardoa sea star san be a good biological control for those aquarists that want to reduce their population of Asterina sea stars.
GREG SCHIEMER






Starfish: Considerations for the Common (and Commonly Misunderstood) Varieties






Asterina sea stars have been accused, unfairly at times, for preying on coral tissue. While some individuals appear to eat some desirable reef invertebrates, the problem may be a simple matter of an opportunistic predator adapting to a change in the available, preferred foods (worms, algae).

Returning to our example of the common, small Asterina species found in some reef tanks, these sea stars in recent years have suffered, unfairly I might add, the reputation of being risky or just plain un-safe in the reef. This is interesting because for many years prior to that, they were not only regarded as harmless, but beneficial! What happened? Did they all change their voter registrations overnight? No, the answer really is quite simple. It also explains why some other "controversial" reef invertebrates have contradictory reputations like Mithrax/Mithraculus crabs. Many such creatures are opportunistic feeders. While they favor one type of prey that is convenient or popular to us, like sand bed worms, brown diatoms or bubble algae, they will adapt to eating other food items following the reduction or absence of a preferred food item. Thus, the reef keeper with a persistent growth of microalgae in a garden reef display will likely have less trouble with misbehaving omnivores than another aquarist with an aggressively skimmed and scrubbed tank that supports little growth of the matter. In a phrase, the hungrier that a so-called "reef-safe" creature gets, the less "reef-safe" that creature becomes. In the case of Asterina, many years ago during the bare-bottomed, nutrient poor Berlin style era of reef keeping, reef husbandry with early protein skimmers and limited nutrient export processes was not as efficient as it is today; diatoms and other nutritious growths grew quickly in our tanks. And Asterina were not considered un-safe by hobbyists.

Anthony Calfo





Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Rogers View Post
Well this is not the first time I've seen my asterina starfish on my montipora but I did notice the trail behind it this time. I am about to declare them guilty of slowing munching my Montiporas...

but first, I submit pics to the court of 3reef. What say you?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gresham View Post
guilty




_________

AG "125," AquaC EV 180, 30 gal sump, "SCWD", 80 lbs LR, CoralSeaLife "Moonlite" Hood, PFO 250W HQI Mini-Pendant (SPS HQI 14000k bulb)
12 Gallon NanoCube - 24w stock PC 50/50 light
"...nothing good ever happens fast in a reef tank, only bad things happen fast..."
- MIKE PALLETTA -
(2008 Reef log)
("OmarD"/"Scott")
omard is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 07:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
Panda Puffer
 
missionsix66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Sun River,Oregon (Bend)
Age: 35
Posts: 2,133
Karma: 8192
missionsix66 has a reputation beyond reputemissionsix66 has a reputation beyond reputemissionsix66 has a reputation beyond reputemissionsix66 has a reputation beyond reputemissionsix66 has a reputation beyond reputemissionsix66 has a reputation beyond reputemissionsix66 has a reputation beyond reputemissionsix66 has a reputation beyond reputemissionsix66 has a reputation beyond reputemissionsix66 has a reputation beyond reputemissionsix66 has a reputation beyond repute


 
 
 
Default

My buddy has these starfish and he can't keep polyps in his tank. They eat them like candy.
missionsix66 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2008, 07:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
Coral Banded Shrimp
 
Dador's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Age: 45
Posts: 367
Karma: 142
Dador has helped out a lot around hereDador has helped out a lot around here


 
 
 
Default

I saw a few in my tank about 2 months ago but none since. Snails eat them? Anything else? Mine seem to be gone.


_________

180 Gallon Reef, 150 lbs of LR and 4" LS. 4-175w 10k MH. 8-110 W actinic VHO, 2 Wave2K, LifeReef Skimmer . A 90 gal sump, Top-Off. 2Mag 9.5 return, Life Reef CR LCR-1. 1 Cin Clown, Bub coral, Xenia, Purp Tang, Yellow Tang, Pogoda, 4 Gobies, Niger Trigger, Angel, Brittle Star
Dador is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reef Links
Click Here!
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hermit Crab vs Red General Starfish - Not Good. gigafish Inverts 8 05-10-2007 06:40 PM
Choc-chip Starfish JetEngineMech Inverts 11 03-29-2007 03:57 PM
starfish food? fastEXcaper ASAP 9 05-17-2006 08:20 AM
predatory starfish?! bpayh Inverts 15 10-29-2004 02:46 AM
Starfish mortality GraviT Inverts 7 07-21-2004 04:12 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:39 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0,
----
All trademarks used are properties of their respective owners. All rights reserved.
All forum posts are the property of the posters. All else © 1996-2008, 3reef.com LLC.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74
Vote for 3reef!
(Clicking these counts as a vote)
aquariumrank

And here too!