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05-10-2006, 04:00 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tyler, Texas
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 |  Water movement choice. Help!
I need to make a choice for water movement. My preferences are either 3 ea. Maxijet 106 gph with a Natural Wave timer or 2 ea. 160 gph Power Sweeps with rotating output. The price difference doesn't matter that much to me. I am looking for the best movement around my reef for both filtration and health of corals (which I don't have yet). I also want to minimize heat output as I don't want to invest in a chiller for this small tank and we like to keep our personal environment at no less than 76 degrees (which means all the pumps and lights can't add more than 2 or 3 degrees). BTW I have discounted the Red Sea Wavemaster Pro because of many bad reports about reliability and service. Any thoughts?
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30 gal SW tank, 1" argonite, 60 lbs live rock, AquaFuge Medium HOB Refugium with sand & chaeto, AquaC Remora Skimmer, Current USA Orbit light fixture (65W CF mix of actinic/daylight/lunar),1damsel, 1 royal grammatid, 3 cerith snails, 1 turbos, 8 hermits (mix of scarlet & dwarf zebra), 1 emerald mithrax crab. 2 Seio power heads. | 
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05-10-2006, 04:40 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Meriden, Connecticut Age: 44
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Look into the Wave2k! There is a small version of the large units(both corner and center) No electricity or powercords inside the tank as the motor runs on the outside of the tank by use of belts. Check out the recent post on them. Also look at wave2k.com.
If that doesn't suit your needs then look into the Seio powerheads. _________ 125gal.w/Mag9.5 return(dual megaflow)>Mag7 pump Aqua Cev180skimmer.Wave2k Hamilton Reefstar(2)250watthqi(mh)pend.a Yellow, Naso Tang Red Lip Blenny Percula Clown Demoiselles Niger Trigger F. Wrasses Ceriantharia Orn.Shrimp and Stars Hermits Queen Conch asst. snails> Stars Zoos shrooms Montipora Brains Gorgonians Favia Turbinaria(large+small polyp) Acropora Xenia Tridacna (CroceaMaximaSquamosa) Leathers <35+75gal.reef tank as well> 
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05-10-2006, 05:08 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tyler, Texas
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Thanks C-Reefer. I will also look into the Wave2K. Regarding the Seio, I think the smallest is 620 gph and they are not suitable to be switched on and off by a wavemaker. Is that right? and would you do one or two in a 30 Gal aquarium? | |
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05-10-2006, 05:12 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Meriden, Connecticut Age: 44
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The only powerheads that can handle being switched on and off are maxi-jets. All the other powerheads will stop working in a short period of time. | |
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05-10-2006, 05:16 PM
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| | Skunk Shrimp
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin Age: 24
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The SCWD is supposed to be great. From what I've heard.
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75 G Display, 12 G Refuge, 12 G sump, 1/10 Chiller, Coralife Skimmer, 300 Watts MH 14,000 K, 356 Watts of Actinic PC Lighting, 120 Pounds of Substrate, 109 lbs of Rock.
Corals: Pumping Xenia, colt, Hammer, 4 misc mushroom groups.
Fish: 2 Ocellaris Clowns, Yellow Tang.
Inverts: turbo snails, astrea snails, tiger striped serpent star, sifting star, skunk cleaner shrimp, sally, red ball sponge, 50 or so hermit crabs | |
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05-10-2006, 05:50 PM
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| | 3reef Moderator |
I've Used the SCWD and it gets clogged quickly and will fail over time.
I have also heard the power sweeps are very unreliable. I've used Maxijets for ever and they are very reliable.
J | |
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05-10-2006, 06:25 PM
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| | Coral Banded Shrimp
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 45
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I have a a Wave 2K and swear by it!! I did a review you can find here at 3 Reef and if you look under my posts you'll be able to see some video I posted. Good Luck!
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180 Gallon Reef, 150 lbs of LR and 4" LS. 4-175w 10k MH. 8-110 W actinic VHO, 2 Wave2K, LifeReef Skimmer . A 90 gal sump, Top-Off. 2Mag 9.5 return, Life Reef CR LCR-1. 1 Cin Clown, Bub coral, Xenia, Purp Tang, Yellow Tang, Pogoda, 4 Gobies, Niger Trigger, Angel, Brittle Star | |
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05-10-2006, 07:50 PM
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| | Astrea Snail
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tyler, Texas
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This has been most interesting. I could use some additional comments on the Seios. How many in a 30 gal reef aquarium? Is 620 gph too High? etc. I think the wave2K uses up a bit too much real estate in this tank. Perhaps I should just use the Maxijets and set up a spray bar with the Natural Wave timer. I would probably use a Wave2K with a larger tank. | |
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05-10-2006, 07:53 PM
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| | Fire Worm
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: OREGON
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i used a SCWD clogged up has shook after 2 weeks sent it to them to repair havent heard a word since so i guess that 40 buck down the drain since im using a wave timer with 2 maxijets works good to me. _________  dang lazy cleaner shrimp! | |
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05-10-2006, 10:48 PM
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| | Coral Banded Shrimp
Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dayton, Ohio Age: 45
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30 Gallon wave 2K way too High!  | |
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