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04-29-2008, 05:01 PM
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#1 (permalink)
| | Fire Shrimp
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 315
|  Still Cycling or Over Loaded
OK,
After 6 weeks in a tranferred tank. Live water, Live sand and Live rock from a six month old tank, my Am is still .15, my N2 is .5, my N3 is 10. These numbers have been consistant throughout.
So here is my question .
How do you know if you are still cycling or your bio load is too great ?
\Cheers
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Tank Stuff:
46Gal, 1 AC110, CPR Skimmer, VA Reactor, CL t5 ho 4 x 60 w w/lunar lights , 50 lbs LR, 60lbs LS
FISH:
1 Coral Beauty, 1 Flame Angel, 1 Flame Hawk, 1 Clown Goby, 1 Damsel, 2 Chomis, 1 Black Sailfin Blenny, 1 Royal Gramma
CORAL:
Mushrooms, Anemone, Feather Dusters
INVERT:
hermits different kinds, 2 turbos, 4 Nassarius Snail , Bumblebee, Banded Coral Shrimp, 2 Emeralds, 1 Sally Lightfoot
Params:
Temp 78, PH 8.3, Alk 2.9, Ca 480, Sg 1.023, Dkh 10, Mg 1400, Am .15, N2 .5, N3 10, P4 .05 | 
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04-29-2008, 05:03 PM
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| | Gigas Clam
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: rocklin
Posts: 858
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did anything die off? | |
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04-29-2008, 05:25 PM
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#3 (permalink)
| | Fire Shrimp
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 315
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Originally Posted by nemo1991  did anything die off? | No casualties. I know the numbers arn't too high, but I am looking for Zero on the Am and N2. soI can start adding corals and such.
My anemone is ragid looking but the fish, shrimp, crabs and snail are all doing fine.
So If I am cycled that would mean that this is the best the tank can do with the current load. So I would need to add more bio filtration somehow to augment. But how does one know if that is the case or I just need to wait a couple more weeks.
What is the longest Cycle time ? | |
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04-29-2008, 05:35 PM
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| | Bubble Tip Anemone
Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Garden Creek,VA
Posts: 656
 
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I am not really sure, but anemones some time get stress and let of some kind of poison
into the water, if the fish are fine then give it some time to see what happend, and if the tank it's been up and running for a while you may want to change some of the water, hope someone enlight you little better later on
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55g. 2" fiji pink LS, 45# fiji premium lr, OR 3500 900gph, 10g. wetdry, 82gph nano skimmer, #2 koralia, T-5ho 216w, pagoda, hammer, zoa.s, dartfish, neon, royal gramma, kenya & few shrooms >))))*>
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04-29-2008, 05:49 PM
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#5 (permalink)
| | Fire Shrimp
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 315
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Also,
I had tested every day or so for six weeks and I never did see a spike in Am. It has always been the numbers as posted.
I know when it first starts out and you are cycling, the Am, N2, and N3 numbers will shoot up and thus needing the water changes to not kill any fish.
Well that never happened which tells me that I was mostly cycled from the get go with the Live Rock, Live Water, Live Sand, ect. Only the Live Rock was right from the old tank.
So I am worried that I am fully cycled and my Am, N2 are not where I want them and I need to figure something out to get them lower.
Maybe a few more weeks will tell.
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04-29-2008, 06:13 PM
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| | Gigas Clam
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, Indiana Age: 23
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IMO, too much, too soon. I let my tank cycle for 12 weeks+. Couldn't even tell ya when my amm. and nitrites went down, I didn't waste the test kits. Everything is beautiful now after 4 full months. _________ 55 gallon slowly growing reef aquarium, 85 lbs. live rock, 2 1/2" sandbed, 1 False Percula Clown, 1 Sixline Wrasse, Tetratec PF500 filter, 2 110 watt URI Super Actinic VHO actinics, 2 250 watt metal halides with Reef Optix 2 reflectors powered by Blue Wave 3 ballast, born 1/3/08 My Tank Thread My Tank Video  | |
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04-29-2008, 06:16 PM
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| | Fire Shrimp
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 315
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Originally Posted by bmshehan IMO, too much, too soon. I let my tank cycle for 12 weeks+. Couldn't even tell ya when my amm. and nitrites went down, I didn't waste the test kits. Everything is beautiful now after 4 full months. |
3 months, yikes..
This was a transfer from a 6 month old tank though. Shouldnt that help cut down the time ?
I am holding off on adding anything until I get to 0 though JIC
Thanks | |
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04-29-2008, 06:21 PM
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| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Miami Age: 39
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OMG, your not supposed to do WC while cycling, nor have any livestock. The only livestock that you can have is a single damsel after 4-6 weeks into the cycle process. A cycle can last as long as 12 weeks. Im sorry to say, but your problem is that you added all that livestock while still cycling. Luna _________ 9YR OLD 90G 30G w/d Mag18 150G skimmer 692w MH,yel&kole tang,foxface,midas&convict blenny,B&G chromies,Blk/yel fin chromie blackcap,nemo,neon goby,6line; Blastomussa Merleti,Acan ,BUBBLE,Torch,LTA, Goniopora(2), Acropora(2),Brain, Moon, assort zoas, yel& G star polyps, R&G open brain, P&B ricordia, montiporas, cup&candy corals, enias,B/G mush,flower ane(2), cherry red mussa, dusters,cleaning crew  | |
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04-29-2008, 06:22 PM
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#9 (permalink)
| | Gigas Clam
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbus, Indiana Age: 23
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Oh, in that case I would think the best thing to do would be to watch and do as you said with holding off on any additions. I didn't understand, I'm kinda slow  . Sorry no help here, never been in that situataion. Was EVERYTHING switched over from the other tank or did you move a tank? | |
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04-29-2008, 06:23 PM
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#10 (permalink)
| | Giant Squid
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Miami Age: 39
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Originally Posted by double2mk 3 months, yikes..
This was a transfer from a 6 month old tank though. Shouldnt that help cut down the time ?
I am holding off on adding anything until I get to 0 though JIC
Thanks | My system is 9yrs old, even if I add one small fish, my tank will go through a small cycle. Every new fish you add, will make your tank go through a small cycle. Luna | |
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