Need Help!

Jason McKenzie · 07-02-2009, 11:47 AM

Ok I've come to my breaking point.

I've been losing SPS for the last 2 months. Then Last night my 7 year old Hammer Coral is turning to mush and dieing as well.

I've checked everything
My water is good
Ammonia 0.0
Nitrites 0.0
Nitrates 0.0
Phosphates >0.03
PH 8.0 -> 8.4
Temp 79.0
SG 35 or 1.026
CA 430
ALk 8 DKH
MAG 1350

I have checked for AEFW and Red bugs
I have stopped the use of Zeovit
Installed a 40W UV sterilizer
I'm running 1L of GFO and 1L of Carbon
performing 2X 40G water changes a week

I've lost 95% of all SPS and now it appears as though my LPS are next.
Through out the this whole situation my Hammer has not extended it's polyps fully.
Fish inverts and Clams all seem unaffected

Looking for any suggestions

Thanks
Jason

Daniel072 · 07-02-2009, 11:55 AM

wow jason, sorry to hear about this.

Iraf · 07-02-2009, 11:56 AM

I'm keeping an eye on this to, just had the exact same thing happen, all my sps' died and my hammer was gone within 24 hours after, anem's clams and fish seem like their all fine though, only thing i found with my tank was the venturi on the skimmer had some blockage again but thats pretty normal for my tank

Screwtape · 07-02-2009, 11:57 AM

Sorry to hear that, sounds horrible. I know you're no newbie but to point out the obvious just in case

Have you doublechecked your parameters against another set of kits or brand of test kits? Doublechecked your temp on another thermometer, and used another calibrated refractometer to check salinity?

divott · 07-02-2009, 12:00 PM

sorry about whats happening jason. bein a newb pretty much , i cant help or suggest anything. sorry. but i wil lfollow this thread now to learn. sorry again

dees reef · 07-02-2009, 12:01 PM

stop the carbon, do 25% water change, and dip all coral. at this point you have nothing to lose! heres a question through, have you recently changed your water source? I had a tank crash after buying or water at a different place. I almost lost all my sps but this corrected it and i only lost one peice. left my tank alone for a week after the 25% change. also my sps dont tolerate carbon well. sorry about your luck hope this helps.

Jason McKenzie · 07-02-2009, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screwtape

Sorry to hear that, sounds horrible. I know you're no newbie but to point out the obvious just in case

Have you doublechecked your parameters against another set of kits or brand of test kits? Doublechecked your temp on another thermometer, and used another calibrated refractometer to check salinity?

Thanks for the concern all.

Screwtape, Yes I have, Being that I've been burned by that is the past. I have 2 sets of test kits along with 2 LFS results. All where conclusive. I have tested the Temp with 3 thermometers and Have 2 different Salinity devises on my system

Good suggestions. Keep them coming

J

divott · 07-02-2009, 12:06 PM

ok , my turn with might be totally wrong in thinking. do sps need good lighting , which im sure you have. could the bulbs be getting old and need replacing? just a newb shot in the dark.

Jason McKenzie · 07-02-2009, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dees reef

stop the carbon, do 25% water change, and dip all coral. at this point you have nothing to lose! heres a question through, have you recently changed your water source? I had a tank crash after buying or water at a different place.

No Water source is the same. I did how ever replace my RO and DI once problem was notice.

Please explain the reason to stop running Carbon? Also I can not do a 25% water change as I do not have the ability to replace 100G of water. But I will try a 60G water change. My RO/DI reservoir is 60G. I will use that rather than my current 40G

J

Jason McKenzie · 07-02-2009, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by divott

ok , my turn with might be totally wrong in thinking. do sps need good lighting , which im sure you have. could the bulbs be getting old and need replacing? just a newb shot in the dark.

Thanks Divott,
I have replaced the bulbs 3 different times. Because when my problems began it was shortly after a bulb change. I then purchased Giesman 14K bulbs and now have the trusted XM 10Ks.

J

07-02-2009, 11:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jason McKenzie 3reef Moderator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC,Canada Posts: 4,885 Skin: Classic Karma: 25308	Need Help! Ok I've come to my breaking point. I've been losing SPS for the last 2 months. Then Last night my 7 year old Hammer Coral is turning to mush and dieing as well. I've checked everything My water is good Ammonia 0.0 Nitrites 0.0 Nitrates 0.0 Phosphates >0.03 PH 8.0 -> 8.4 Temp 79.0 SG 35 or 1.026 CA 430 ALk 8 DKH MAG 1350 I have checked for AEFW and Red bugs I have stopped the use of Zeovit Installed a 40W UV sterilizer I'm running 1L of GFO and 1L of Carbon performing 2X 40G water changes a week I've lost 95% of all SPS and now it appears as though my LPS are next. Through out the this whole situation my Hammer has not extended it's polyps fully. Fish inverts and Clams all seem unaffected Looking for any suggestions Thanks Jason _________ started 8/7/02 370G 3x400W MH + 8X36W T5. 30G Refugium, Bubble king 300Ext, Profilux with 3x Doser, 2x Wavy Seas for return. OM 4-Way Closed loop. My Tank Thread Try a Search to see if your question has already been posted My Tank Blog

07-02-2009, 11:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
Daniel072 Tang Whisperer=) Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,140 Skin: Mint Karma: 16723	wow jason, sorry to hear about this. _________ 150 gallon mixed reef, 2 x 400watt mh lighting. Flow comes from a mixture of koralias and seios. Fish - Purple tang, yellow tang, leutenant tang, flame hawk, purple stripe pseudochromis, pink spot watchman goby and green mandarin. Coral - ORA Red Planet, ORA Purple Cap, ORA Stuber Stag, ORA Joe the Coral, ORA Hawkins Echinata, ORA Orange Cap, ORA Bird of Paradise, Tyree LE Sunset Montipora, Superman Danae, ORA Green Birdsnest, Several Others

07-02-2009, 11:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
Iraf Snowflake Eel Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Tulsa, Ok Age: 30 Posts: 2,356 Skin: Classic Karma: 15008	I'm keeping an eye on this to, just had the exact same thing happen, all my sps' died and my hammer was gone within 24 hours after, anem's clams and fish seem like their all fine though, only thing i found with my tank was the venturi on the skimmer had some blockage again but thats pretty normal for my tank _________ 90g DSA - D.O.B. 11-4-08 Probably soon to have a new re-birth

07-02-2009, 12:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
divott Whip-Lash Squid Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: holland landing, ontario ,canada Age: 49 Posts: 2,977 Skin: Classic Karma: 77329	sorry about whats happening jason. bein a newb pretty much , i cant help or suggest anything. sorry. but i wil lfollow this thread now to learn. sorry again _________ 90 gal reef , 30 gal sump , 6 x 54 t5 ho , coralife super skimmer , 3 koralia ph's , carbon and phos reactors life : percula clown, one-spot foxface , coral beauty , flame angel , purple tang,red scooter blenny , kole tang corals: toadstool leather, finger leather, , 2 green star polyps, pulsing xenia , zoas , frogspawn , elegance coral, 2 lobos , black and orange sun corals

07-02-2009, 12:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
dees reef Bristle Worm Join Date: May 2009 Location: princeton il. Posts: 132 Skin: Mint Karma: 844	stop the carbon, do 25% water change, and dip all coral. at this point you have nothing to lose! heres a question through, have you recently changed your water source? I had a tank crash after buying or water at a different place. I almost lost all my sps but this corrected it and i only lost one peice. left my tank alone for a week after the 25% change. also my sps dont tolerate carbon well. sorry about your luck hope this helps. Last edited by dees reef; 07-02-2009 at 12:08 PM.

07-02-2009, 11:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
Screwtape Panda Puffer Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,120 Skin: Mint Karma: 15229	Sorry to hear that, sounds horrible. I know you're no newbie but to point out the obvious just in case Have you doublechecked your parameters against another set of kits or brand of test kits? Doublechecked your temp on another thermometer, and used another calibrated refractometer to check salinity?

07-02-2009, 12:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
divott Whip-Lash Squid Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: holland landing, ontario ,canada Age: 49 Posts: 2,977 Skin: Classic Karma: 77329	ok , my turn with might be totally wrong in thinking. do sps need good lighting , which im sure you have. could the bulbs be getting old and need replacing? just a newb shot in the dark.